35s for looks

[mamarunner]

Hi, I am looking to get 5s for a rugged aggressive look, but would like it to drive nicely in city driving. Any ideas??? Thanks!!

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[Haruharu]

If you have the limited...

This is your stock configuration:

Limited
20" inch machine finished alloy wheels (20x8" +55mm offset)
31.5" Dunlop Grandtrek AT20 tires (265/55R20)

Your suspension was designed to work best within its stock geometry. By stock geometry I am estimate roughly a steering axis inclination angle of roughly 13 degrees. (This is my own estimation)

If you want to slap on 35s for the look, your best bet would be to get the lightest and thinnest possible setup. I would recommend moving to a 17" rim as well to achieve the look you want.

1. Tires

255/85R17 - Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T- E Load. 63lbs with an inflated diameter of 34.6" (pretty much 35"). The lack of width in these pizza cutter style wheels will call for the least amount of modifications to your car to accept a 35" wheel.

or

35/11.5R17 - Toyo Open Country A/T III - C Load. 61 lbs and C load will give you a better ride. But it will be an inch wider in the sidewalls so you will likely need to do a little more work to accommodate this. Personally, if you prefer better on-road manners. I would pick this.


2. Wheels - TBD, see below.

Now to retain as much as your steering capability (as well as reduce suspension wear), i.e., maintain city driving you will want to preserve your geometry by using the correct offset wheel. Because you are moving to a larger diameter from 31.5" to 34.5" you will actually need to move your offset to account for this.

The formula is

Change_in_offset = Change_in_diameter/2 x tan(Steering axis inclination angle)
Change_in_offset = (34.5"-31.5"/2) x tan(13 degrees)
Change_in_offset = (3"/2) x 0.23086
Change_in_offset = 0.34629" or 8.7957mm

So at +55mm stock, theoretically, you would want to move outboard 8.7957mm to +46.2mm. Given that the work up to this point is theoretical, I would say +45 mm is optimal.

So the wheel you are looking for is 17" x 8" with a +45 mm offset. However, you will see plenty of users report a lot of success with anywhere from -10 to +25 mm offset. The cost of this is increased wear on wheel bearings and tie rods. I like to believe that Toyota engineers were aware that 4runner consumers would be modifiying their wheels and suspension; thus, you should be fine purchasing a wheel with a more aggressive offset.

My personal advice is +35 mm to +45 mm is optimal. Please also be advised that as you move the wheel further and further out, i.e., more negative offset, your car will require more and more trimming and/or modification to fit the 35s.

Hope this helps!

 

[mamarunner]

If you have the limited...

This is your stock configuration:

Limited
20" inch machine finished alloy wheels (20x8" +55mm offset)
31.5" Dunlop Grandtrek AT20 tires (265/55R20)

Your suspension was designed to work best within its stock geometry. By stock geometry I am estimate roughly a steering axis inclination angle of roughly 13 degrees. (This is my own estimation)

If you want to slap on 35s for the look, your best bet would be to get the lightest and thinnest possible setup. I would recommend moving to a 17" rim as well to achieve the look you want.

1. Tires

255/85R17 - Mickey Thompson Baja Boss A/T- E Load. 63lbs with an inflated diameter of 34.6" (pretty much 35"). The lack of width in these pizza cutter style wheels will call for the least amount of modifications to your car to accept a 35" wheel.

or

35/11.5R17 - Toyo Open Country A/T III - C Load. 61 lbs and C load will give you a better ride. But it will be an inch wider in the sidewalls so you will likely need to do a little more work to accommodate this. Personally, if you prefer better on-road manners. I would pick this.


2. Wheels - TBD, see below.

Now to retain as much as your steering capability (as well as reduce suspension wear), i.e., maintain city driving you will want to preserve your geometry by using the correct offset wheel. Because you are moving to a larger diameter from 31.5" to 34.5" you will actually need to move your offset to account for this.

The formula is

Change_in_offset = Change_in_diameter/2 x tan(Steering axis inclination angle)
Change_in_offset = (34.5"-31.5"/2) x tan(13 degrees)
Change_in_offset = (3"/2) x 0.23086
Change_in_offset = 0.34629" or 8.7957mm

So at +55mm stock, theoretically, you would want to move outboard 8.7957mm to +46.2mm. Given that the work up to this point is theoretical, I would say +45 mm is optimal.

So the wheel you are looking for is 17" x 8" with a +45 mm offset. However, you will see plenty of users report a lot of success with anywhere from -10 to +25 mm offset. The cost of this is increased wear on wheel bearings and tie rods. I like to believe that Toyota engineers were aware that 4runner consumers would be modifiying their wheels and suspension; thus, you should be fine purchasing a wheel with a more aggressive offset.

My personal advice is +35 mm -45 mm is optimal. Please also be advised that as you move the wheel further and further out, i.e., more negative offset, your car will require more and more trimming and/or modification to fit the 35s.

Hope this helps!

Oh thanks so much! This was such a great response. Thanks for your time!!!

 

[TRD_GUY]

A/T tires can vary, so it's not cut and dry about just running the "thinnest" tires. And for weight, an 85 is a TALL tire and more weight. For example, I run 265/70/18 Mickey Thompson's as they are about the lightest A/T you can find for this size (44lbs). Rims also need to be considered if you are aiming to reduce unsprung weight, but tires will have a more dramatic affect on gas mileage.

Some A/T's are what I consider more on-road oriented from a tread perspective, whereas some A/T's are more off-road tread oriented even though they are both considered A/T's. Find tires with the least amount of gap between treads. These will be more on-road oriented and won't impact your mileage as much assuming you are considering bigger tires. They just won't work as good off-road so you have to decide your flavor.

 

[mamarunner]

A/T tires can vary, so it's not cut and dry about just running the "thinnest" tires. And for weight, an 85 is a TALL tire and more weight. For example, I run 265/70/18 Mickey Thompson's as they are about the lightest A/T you can find for this size (44lbs). Rims also need to be considered if you are aiming to reduce unsprung weight, but tires will have a more dramatic affect on gas mileage.

Some A/T's are what I consider more on-road oriented from a tread perspective, whereas some A/T's are more off-road tread oriented even though they are both considered A/T's. Find tires with the least amount of gap between treads. These will be more on-road oriented and won't impact your mileage as much assuming you are considering bigger tires. They just won't work as good off-road so you have to decide your flavor.

Thanks!!!

 

[TRD_GUY]

Thanks!!!

On a side note, I would never run an 85 tall tire. The pizza-cutter comment is related to the tire width (255) is what someone recomended. I would stay with the same or similar size tire as your OEM, just find the look that you like from whatever brand floats your boat. It's very subjective so I won't suggest anything.

 

[Haruharu]

Oh thanks so much! This was such a great response. Thanks for your time!!!

I forgot a salient point.

to run 35s easier you will want a a lift kit of sorts, if it’s just for looks you will want to consider:

1. Westcott preload collar kit for 2025+ 4Runner (2.5” front and 0.75” rear)

2. peak suspension kit.

without the lift I think it is still possible, but it helps with the overall look!

Good luck

 

[mamarunner]

I forgot a salient point.

to run 35s easier you will want a a lift kit of sorts, if it’s just for looks you will want to consider:

1. Westcott preload collar kit for 2025+ 4Runner (2.5” front and 0.75” rear)

2. peak suspension kit.

without the lift I think it is still possible, but it helps with the overall look!

Good luck

Thanks , yes, I got the wescott kit put in.

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