Had the winter (v1) previously and they felt reasonable in the slush etc, but less that great in the dry, eg -5c on clear paved roads. The Alpin5s felt great in the slush and awesome in the dry.
Hoping winter (v2) along with the elec benefits (which may just be marketing...) work even better. Just need to be able to find rims. First world problems here but cmon how hard is it to confirm what rims fit etc.