@Yves "One example, Regen is severely limited in power when battery is cold"
not my observation-to the contrary. where is this information coming from?
thats all ok. but i do not understand: „I DC charge to 70% and charge the car to 100% on AC, it is outside so if I do none of that my battery is very cold“
you go to a fastcharger, charge to 70% than drive home, park on the street and charge to 100% with AC? this would not make much sense...
The important quote here:
"Assuming you preheat while plugged in"
but you started this whole discussion in claiming that your car is parked outside, low charge, cold and you have to fast charge soon.
so what ?
In any case, this assumption cannot be stated as such. This whole discussion is only about a few minutes more or less. But to prove this "scientifically," the following test setup would have to be chosen:
Departure at outside temperature X, with charge level Y, distance to charging...
not possible
In any case, this assumption cannot be stated as such. This whole discussion is only about a few minutes more or less. But to prove this "scientifically," the following test setup would have to be chosen:
Departure at outside temperature X, with charge level Y, distance to charging...
the porsche navigation plans your trip. it tries to bring you as fast as possible to your destination. you just enter your destination like in any other navigation and it considers preferred charging network, availability, speed of chargers as well as weather and traffic. as you drive it will...
may be. the point is that the heating of the battery would cost so much energy that there would be no gain in charging time. the car calculates this and act accordingly. when you leave with 10c battery temperature and need to charge soon it would 1.) not even be possible for the heatpump to heat...
stimmt. es ist eine Fahrt durch eine Stadt. Ich wollte damit nur verdeutlichen, wie viel energie das von einigen hier geforderte Vorwärmen der kühlen batterie direkt nach dem Start kosten würde.
If only you would read @seabird's text properly! No one disputes that a cold battery charges slightly slower than one that is within the perfect temperature range. But the point here is how much energy is needed to bring it into this optimal range. If it's clear that it costs more energy and...
This is no "theory". This is scientific knowledge. The way Porsche handles preconditioning is based on this. Your "experience" with charging has nothing to do with preconditioning. Look for an charger that is able to provide the max possible charging speed to your car under ideal conditions and...
@seabird
Why continue this discussion? We have this everywhere. Even if you say that 1+1=2, some esotericists will immediately come forward and claim that this is not true or that there is at least a parallel universe where this is different. These are the times we live in, where anyone on the...
@seabird
Thank you very much for this contribution. I believe that this answers all of the questions.
@Yves
the capacity of the heatpump is limited. I think it has 6KWH. That is not much. In cold temps it has to heat the car and the battery. this takes some time. as seabird explained...
1.) of course you can influence charging stops by adjusting minimal charge at target and minimum charge at charging stop.
2.) in case that the charging planner gives you a 10 min stop to charge to 40% at a given charger and you decide to charge to let us say 80%. You just delete the charging...
That's funny! Just yesterday, I took a 300 km test drive in the Tourismo Turbo Taycan. I also had the idea of switching. My PC made me a great offer: a fully configured Turbo 2025 with Active Ride, HUD, etc., with 10,000 km for 159,000 (instead of 229,000). But I decided against it. Apart from...
thank you! on ipad and iphone there are english subtitles! I watched it with them. You just klick at "CC" (on the ios device a bit longer) and choose translation. On PC klick the litle wheel and go to "auto translate" and choose any language.
Porsche does not offer the option of starting preconditioning manually. As with all aspects of charging planning, the company believes that the Macan can handle this optimally on its own. Especially to balance energy consumption for preconditioning.
Porsche fundamentally believes that extensive...