Chinese software & charging test

[Petzi]

Very interesting test of BYD seal. App, preheating & charging.
How is this better than Macan ? (its not)

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[TomekGnomek]

How is this better than Macan ?

Well, it's a bit like saying how is a Honda Civic better than a BMW M3?

 

[Petzi]

Well, it's not because this

Well, it's a bit like saying how is a Honda Civic better than a BMW M3?

no. if you say software, its not.
this is the software that is standard on a chinese car. That's the software I always read about here, that Porsche is so far behind.
I am not talking about the bad charging, not about the bad assistance and not the dismal consumption. I am talking preheating (cabin & battery).

 

[TomekGnomek]

You have a point but to me these are not comparable cars.
One is a value-oriented sedan, the other is a premium performance SUV.
If you compare let's say Taycan to Xiaomi SU7 it's a different story.

And to be fair comparing these cars always comes down to value for money which is not, has never been and should never be the domain of Porsche.

That being said brand value (of any brand) is not as important as it used to be, especially for younger audience. What's interesting to me is that overall automotive brand loyalty has dropped below 50% in 2025, meaning the majority of buyers now switch brands and 35% of luxury buyers are now open to switching brands.

 

[Petzi]

You have a point but to me these are not comparable cars.
One is a value-oriented sedan, the other is a premium performance SUV.
If you compare let's say Taycan to Xiaomi SU7 it's a different story.

And to be fair comparing these cars always comes down to value for money which is not, has never been and should never be the domain of Porsche.

That being said brand value (of any brand) is not as important as it used to be, especially for younger audience. What's interesting to me is that overall automotive brand loyalty has dropped below 50% in 2025, meaning the majority of buyers now switch brands and 35% of luxury buyers are now open to switching brands.

sorry, i have to disagree. we are talking software. the theory that is pushed in this forum by some is that the porsche „software“ is subpar. beside the fact that most other cars don't even allow you to drive faster then 200 kmh and most switch of assistance at 140 (like tesla) i can not see any „better“ software anywhere. the difference is a matter of taste. there might be more and“better“ in the future. but it is most likely that the porsche operating system is much more capable then teslas or rivians. may be porsche could achieve its level of dynamics and speed in the future easier and cheaper with the help of say rivian. but i cant see how our driving experience would improve with todays rivian software let alone byd‘s.

btw: there are plenty tests that compare taycan and su7. how is su7 software „better“? the consensus is that you risk your life driving the su7 like a taycan..

 

[Reno]

Look her:


https://www.macanevowners.com/forum/threads/macan-vs-byd-safety.24695/

 

[byebye]

One video that says something bad about a non Porsche car: a consensus, an uncontested reality.

Several real owners of Porsche EV that say (firsthand & IRL) something bad about their Porsche EV: trolls, nonsensical people, overreacting people Or unfair overexpectations.

Porsche EVs are perfect, when there is a problem, it's solely the responsibility of the owner who obviously don't understand the tech.

Sure.

Nonetheless, Porsche is far behind the competition when talking about the software and the electronics and that is why they can't cope with OTA and are unable to deliver.
This lack of OTA costs Porsche millions.

 

[Petzi]

One video that says something bad about a non Porsche car: a consensus, an uncontested reality.

Several real owners of Porsche EV that say (firsthand & IRL) something bad about their Porsche EV: trolls, nonsensical people, overreacting people Or unfair overexpectations.

Porsche EVs are perfect, when there is a problem, it's solely the responsibility of the owner who obviously don't understand the tech.

Sure.

Nonetheless, Porsche is far behind the competition when talking about the software and the electronics and that is why they can't cope with OTA and are unable to deliver.
This lack of OTA costs Porsche millions.

this video actually does not say anything „negative“ about byd´s ota. it just shows what happens. and it shows that this state of the art Chinese car can do nothing better than macan and a lot of things worse. I bet you did not even watch it.

it is possible to talk objectively about those things. how about you make a litle video about your problems? oh i forgot you as your lawyers are „ to busy“. you just have all the time in the world to talk negatively about porsche in every forum and every thread. the stories vary but you are everywhere.

 

[byebye]

No my stories don't vary.
There are several screenshots of my real problems in several threads of this forum. As well as several positive threads...

You have no problem with your macan, and you are unable to understand that I (and others) have several.
ALL your posts are consistent: the Macan has no problem at all. I get it, but sorry, it's not true.

When the problem is solved, I write a post. It took Porsche 3 months to solve the red circle of death problems, and total loss of power, and as a consequence, I've accepted to take back the car.

I'm pretty consistent so as my Macan, unfortunately.

in the end: I will not buy again an EV car from Porsche. It's a very bad experience, and I've documented it on this forum.

Like I've said, I get it: I'm a troll because I have problems with my Macan. I'm wrong, you're right.

 

[RGBArgee]

Very interesting test of BYD seal. App, preheating & charging.
How is this better than Macan ? (its not)

How can a BYD ( bury your dead) be better!

 

[Petzi]

How can a BYD ( bury your dead) be better!

i would never claim that. the issue is something else: there are a few, but all the more vehement, posters in this forum who claim to be extremely upset about how ‘bad’ the macan's software supposedly is. they claim to be very concerned about the future of porsche... they claim that practically every other car has better software.

This raises the question: which vehicle has better software? I happened to come across this report. Of course, BYD is not in the same league as Porsche. But BYD is the largest Chinese EV supplier. I do believe that a comparison is justified. As expected, the result is that Porsche's software is absolutely state of the art.

 

[Awaz]

..." Porsche's software is absolutely state of the art."

 

[Petzi]

..." Porsche's software is absolutely state of the art."

Is that all you have to say nothing than mere polemics?

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