Gripes 6mo into ownership

[cometguy]

While some parts are indeed made in Slovakia, as I witnessed on my factory tour in Leipzig, they are assembled on the same line, by the same people as their ICE brethren and Panamaras.

Yep... Here's a shot of the relevant part of my Macan 4's monroney label:

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[BruceS2]

The touch on the trunk, the charge cover doors and the touch to lock on the door handles are silly and work maybe 30% of the time. I mostly use the key now. The charge door is the only one I really need. My rattle was the passenger seat belt buckle banging against the side of the door cover. If I adjust it so it hangs away from the door it's fine.

My #1 complaint is we can't yet use the Telsa charger network.

 

[Hawk_Tuah]

My #1 complaint is we can't yet use the Telsa charger network.

Here in Germany we can use superchargers BUT it’s limited to a charging speed of 135kw (for whatever technical reason) which is an instant pass if you can charge twice the speed at other chargers.

I miss the SUC network most.

 

[Frankie]

Here in Germany we can use superchargers BUT it’s limited to a charging speed of 135kw (for whatever technical reason) which is an instant pass if you can charge twice the speed at other chargers.

the 135 charging speed has to do with the 400V charging structure. I always charge here in the Netherlands with a Tesla SC. For me it is the cheapest option. The contract that Porsche has here with Ionity is more expensive than Tesla. The only downside is indeed the charging speed of max 135 kW. This is because of the 400V charging structure of Tesla. The new V4 charging stations seem to be able to charge at 800V.

 

[skeesh]

I also have 1, 2 and 5. I have also had a similar issue to the parking button with lack of sensitivity of the brake pedal/shifting in to reverse. Feels like a lack of attention to detail that is quite unlike other Porsches I've owned.

I haven't noticed any particular rattles (beyond the passenger seatbelt!) and whilst disappointing, I knew the doors weren't soft close. I think a lot of the product decisions have been made to purposefully downgrade the experience vs the Taycan. It kind of makes sense on the entry level Macan but is disappointing on the Turbo.

Other 'downgrades' that are a bit disappointing is the Innodrive (Taycan has dynamic speed / braking based on traffic /road even when full Innodrive isn't engaged) and the matrix headlights on the Macan are a poor cousin of the Taycan. And one I find weirdly frustrating, when the speed warning is sounding, it doesn't play the indicator sound.

 

[Yves]

> I don't get this one pedal driving thing

i think it is the type of thing that is hard to imagine until you use for a while and then get used to it and then the other way seems to not make sense. But until you go full on using it, yeah, you won’t get it. And macan ev though I appreciate some regen they allow, it’s not really at all what you get with true one pedal.

No not true,
I had a Tesla and hated it every second, more over you could not coast and use regen braking without keeping your foot on the pedal ALL THE TIME. The real reason Tesla has OPD is they never could figure out blended braking, plane simpel.
Moreover as I drive more then one car it absolutely makes no sense to have different regen OPD systems. Accelerator is meant to accelerate and brake pedal is meant to brake, it’s as simpel as that. This way switching between ICE and EV is also uniform.

But I do get there are some people who have leant to drive with a Tesla, for those it’s a pain to not have OPD. I for one am very happy I can take my food of the accelerator on long trips and coast, especially when there are hills …

Now I do get there are manufactures that offer both like B mode in the iX … almost as strong as OPD in a Tesla, but I never use it, it’s annoying as hell, and opinion shared with all the family members, young and old

PS you can get the same amount of regen then the OPD of a Tesla, I dare say even more, as you can really push it to the limit (except there is a bug with the Macan that it sometimes does not work for the first minutes )

 

[4RS-1959]

Also have a lot of rattles from roof and doors. Roof was already adjusted once. It’s better but surprisingly noisy vehicle. My first German experience and not impressed coming from Lexus, Volvo, Tesla. Though better than my matchbox Rivian with rattles galore.

I had same experience with my brief Rivian R1T experience (they replaced glass roof twice only to say wind noise within normal parameters …). I love my Macan minus rattles and technology divide/differences from the Tesla ecosystem.

 

[evdriver2016]

No not true,
I had a Tesla and hated it every second, more over you could not coast and use regen braking without keeping your foot on the pedal ALL THE TIME. The real reason Tesla has OPD is they never could figure out blended braking, plane simpel.
Moreover as I drive more then one car it absolutely makes no sense to have different regen OPD systems. Accelerator is meant to accelerate and brake pedal is meant to brake, it’s as simpel as that. This way switching between ICE and EV is also uniform.

But I do get there are some people who have leant to drive with a Tesla, for those it’s a pain to not have OPD. I for one am very happy I can take my food of the accelerator on long trips and coast, especially when there are hills …

Now I do get there are manufactures that offer both like B mode in the iX … almost as strong as OPD in a Tesla, but I never use it, it’s annoying as hell, and opinion shared with all the family members, young and old

PS you can get the same amount of regen then the OPD of a Tesla, I dare say even more, as you can really push it to the limit (except there is a bug with the Macan that it sometimes does not work for the first minutes )

I have both right now with Rivian and Macan and I prefer the one pedal.

on long trips I just use innodrive so not touching the accelerator anyway.

but really the answer is to allow both via a setting. I appreciate Porsche declaring you will drive how we say you drive. But with EV motors you really can fine tune things so it might be better to allow the one pedal people to have their one pedal. I suspect there will be a lot of them coming from Tesla who don’t want to give it up. (Like myself)

 

[Yves]

I have both right now with Rivian and Macan and I prefer the one pedal.

on long trips I just use innodrive so not touching the accelerator anyway.

but really the answer is to allow both via a setting. I appreciate Porsche declaring you will drive how we say you drive. But with EV motors you really can fine tune things so it might be better to allow the one pedal people to have their one pedal. I suspect there will be a lot of them coming from Tesla who don’t want to give it up. (Like myself)

Why invest in a tech that actually was born out the inability to do blended braking correctly, it is inconsistent and could lead to serious accidents when in rental cars, 95% of the cars on the market are running without OPD. It’s like removing the stalks, it’s beyond me those cars are even allowed on the street. I dare say there should be a different permit for it, like driving a shift stick and automatic, it basically changes the drive …
OPD is also not consistent, full battery, sorry your car behaves differently, really?! Your battery is cold soaked, your car brakes differently, really? Then there is the constant japping, oh this OPD is not the same as my XYZ branded car … No OPD was a bad idea and I’m really glad Porsche really understands this.

 

[evdriver2016]

Why invest in a tech that actually was born out the inability to do blended braking correctly

You may not like one pedal driving but this is just not true and is a myth often circulated by critics or competitors.

Tesla didn’t use one-pedal driving because it “couldn’t” do blended braking. It chose a different regen philosophy that prioritized energy efficiency and a unique driving experience.

Over time, other EV makers have adopted similar strong regen modes with optional one-pedal driving (Rivian, Polestar, Mach-E, Ioniq 5, and even some BMWs)

You can make arguments against one pedal driving but "inability to do blended braking correctly" is not one of them, as Tesla has already done this for years when battery is full or low temps.

 

[alxman]

No not true,
I had a Tesla and hated it every second, more over you could not coast and use regen braking without keeping your foot on the pedal ALL THE TIME. The real reason Tesla has OPD is they never could figure out blended braking, plane simpel.
Moreover as I drive more then one car it absolutely makes no sense to have different regen OPD systems. Accelerator is meant to accelerate and brake pedal is meant to brake, it’s as simpel as that. This way switching between ICE and EV is also uniform.

But I do get there are some people who have leant to drive with a Tesla, for those it’s a pain to not have OPD. I for one am very happy I can take my food of the accelerator on long trips and coast, especially when there are hills …

Now I do get there are manufactures that offer both like B mode in the iX … almost as strong as OPD in a Tesla, but I never use it, it’s annoying as hell, and opinion shared with all the family members, young and old

PS you can get the same amount of regen then the OPD of a Tesla, I dare say even more, as you can really push it to the limit (except there is a bug with the Macan that it sometimes does not work for the first minutes )

Also add the feeling of dizziness from constant acceleration and deceleration when using OPD, usually affecting the passengers more than the driver. I bet your brain is constantly banging against your skull. Maybe a study is needed to assess the long term health impacts of OPD! I own a Tesla model X and a Macan EV and don’t miss OPD at all. I wouldn’t use it even if provided by Porsche.

 

[Yves]

You may not like one pedal driving but this is just not true and is a myth often circulated by critics or competitors.

Tesla didn’t use one-pedal driving because it “couldn’t” do blended braking. It chose a different regen philosophy that prioritized energy efficiency and a unique driving experience.

Over time, other EV makers have adopted similar strong regen modes with optional one-pedal driving (Rivian, Polestar, Mach-E, Ioniq 5, and even some BMWs)

You can make arguments against one pedal driving but "inability to do blended braking correctly" is not one of them, as Tesla has already done this for years when battery is full or low temps.

They never could blended braking to work, so they invented OPD, it’s inconsistent and yes some people prefer it, but most people do not understand why a car brakes when you go of the accelerator, it’s not a brake and it never should be used as one.
Anyway to each their own, but people mentioning lack of OPD a dealbreaker beats me, on the other hand for me the lack of descent coasting and blended braking is a deal braker for me as 95% of the cars in the world drive like that.

On the topic of other manufactures implementing it, yeah my iX has B mode, it almost made someone rear ending it when it was activated by accident, user error for sure, but muscle memory is a bitch …

 

[shawn]

Fortunately, no rattles that some are experiencing. Should refer to their dealerships to sort this out, as this shouldn't happen.
Door closes with a sold thud, good feeling, and 'P' button always works, first attempt : )

Same

 

[Big Grack]

Also Turbo six months - stopped trying to open frunk with a swipe (it’s hardly difficult the other way though it should be consistent). otherwise no rattles at all (though no sunroof), door closing is excellent, rocker no prob. Very happy..

 

[RunningOnSolar]

I've experienced the problem with "park not engaging after I think I've pushed the button". I'm up to a count of 2 or 3 times that the car has lurched forward after I thought it was in park and it was not in park.

Something I discovered is the Power button puts the car in Park automatically. No chance of the car lurching forward if it is powered down/automatically in Park. Regardless I always verify that P is active.

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