hmmmm - no polestar????

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[MKSZ51]

It's cousin to Volvo - yawn............. nothing lost.

 

[Greybeard72]

Bizarre.. Banning Polestar and then allowing Volvo to sell?.. Makes no sense. But then I thought, why are you surprised?

 

[Wivenhoe]

Some time ago the MoD in the UK banned EV’s cars with Chinese software within 2 miles of ‘sensitive’ establishments. They also totally banned connecting phones to those cars and warned against sensative conversations being held in them.

When I posted on here about this there were quite a few members attacked me for posting nonsense - looks like the US government is going further and banning cars full stop.

It‘s ironic that Porsche stopped production of the ICE Macan’s in Europe as the software didn’t comply with the cyber security rules.

 

[rjf]

It's cousin to Volvo - yawn............. nothing lost.

competition is good, especially for a company like Porsche. If anything, competition may spur Porsche to keep their prices in check, or perhaps may cause them to do a better job with their software updates, etc..

Polestar has some really nice offerings - great styling, beautiful interiors, and, unfortunately numerous software glitches. I’m sad to see them leave the US market.

 

[MKSZ51]

competition is good, especially for a company like Porsche. If anything, competition may spur Porsche to keep their prices in check, or perhaps may cause them to do a better job with their software updates, etc..

Polestar has some really nice offerings - great styling, beautiful interiors, and, unfortunately numerous software glitches. I’m sad to see them leave the US market.

I agree that competition is always good - but I don't think Polestar / Volvo are in the same tier as Porsche. From a dynamic driving standpoint they aren't close. From a software standpoint Porsche is actually better. Polestar has never had good sales in the US - most recently only 6% of their sales came from US.

 

[rjf]

I agree that competition is always good - but I don't think Polestar / Volvo are in the same tier as Porsche. From a dynamic driving standpoint they aren't close. From a software standpoint Porsche is actually better. Polestar has never had good sales in the US - most recently only 6% of their sales came from US.

I would definitely agree that Polestar and Volvo are not in the same tier as Porsche - I'm fine with that. That said, I'm looking forward to seeing / driving the EX60 once it launches in the US. Hoping the SPA3 platform doesn't have all of the issues plaguing SPA2. If I can get 80-90% of the goodness of my Macan 4 in an EX60, I'll be fine.

Too early to compare software on the Macan vs the incoming EX60.

And you're absolutely right about Polestar sales - it's been a struggle for them - or, as of yesterday, it was a struggle for them.

 

[MMR]

I test drove the Polestar 4 before ordering my Macan Turbo.

For me, the driving dynamics weren’t even close. The Polestar’s interior felt quite basic, and by the end of the test drive I was already bored of it. That said, its 360° camera system was definitely better.

Personally, I think Porsche got so much right with both the interior and exterior design of the Macan. It’s a fantastic car to drive and to spend time in.

I genuinely feel for those whose Macans have been plagued with issues, because when everything is working as it should, it really is a great car.

 

[MKSZ51]

I genuinely feel for those whose Macans have been plagued with issues, because when everything is working as it should, it really is a great car.

Agree 100% - but I do think some have issues due to not having realistic expectations about the vehicle - especially in regard to software and update issues. For me the entire goal of owning and driving a Porsche is for the driving experience. The software is necessary but it would never be a reason I would say "no way" to the Macan vs. a different vehicle (especially one that was boring to drive but was perceived as having better software).

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