First Sighting - Macan EVSE Charger for North America…???

[daveo4EV]

Have you taken delivery and are you happy with your charging arrangement? I have a professionally installed Tesla Wall level 2 charger which I have been using since I purchased my Model S in 2016. I have also used it with a Tesla to J1772 adapter to charge my Rivian RS1 and my wife's Volvo XC 60 PHEV. Do you know if Porsche endorses the use of the Tesla charger?
Do you know if the Porsche supplied charger is level 2? I have been trying to find information wrt how fast it charges but have not been successful. Thank you.

porsche charger (EVSE) is L2 @ 9.6 kW - NEMA 14-50 or 6-50 plug - 40 amps - 50 amp breaker - Porsche only endorses their charger, but that's because they are clueless - these items are called EVSE's - Electric Vehicle Supply Equipment - they are simply external raw power supplies with an on/off switch under control of the car - there is honestly no difference between chargers because they just allow raw AC power to flow into the vehicle where an onboard charger is responsible for charging the battery - not the external EVSE - if Porsche's EV's were really not compatible with non-Prosche EV chargers (EVSE's) how would you use public chargers? none of which are Porsche chargers? Your Macan/Taycan will work fine with most any J-1772/NACS EVSE - it has to be that way because other wise you couldn't charge at work, hotels, malls, airports, or any other place that has installed EVSE's.

_ALL_ North American mobile EVSE are limited to 40 amps (9.6 kW) - since that is the maximum amount of power a _MOBILE_ EVSE is allowed to draw from a plug - if the EVSE is more powerful than 40 amps it has to be hardwired (not plug based) so it ca not be mobile.

your existing Tesla EVSE will work fine…

the charge rate and max power of the porsche charger is clearly visible in the image posted in post #1 - it's listed on the unit itself as 40 amp @ 9.6 kW…

 

[Senna]

I still haven't received my Macan 4 due to issues with the software upgrade. Porsche identified a faulty part that was preventing the upgrade from completing, so I’m currently waiting for that part to arrive.

As for the Tesla Wall Connector, I opted for the Tesla Universal Connector because it supports both the NACS (Tesla connector) and J1772 (other manufacturers). Next year, several car manufacturers, including Porsche, will adopt NACS, making the Tesla Wall Connector the best choice for me. It comes with a four-year warranty and supports 11 kW, which is the maximum capacity for the Macan using AC charging.

While Porsche offers a nice Level 2 charger, it’s quite expensive and doesn’t support NACS. However, it does provide up to 19 kW in AC. I believe 9 kW should suffice for most situations. Here’s the link for the Porsche Level 2 charger.

The charger itself is inside of the car, this actually just a power supply.

https://shop.porsche.com/us/en-US/p/porsche-wall-charger-connect-9J1068209-B/9J1068209

 

[daveo4EV]

I still haven't received my Macan 4 due to issues with the software upgrade. Porsche identified a faulty part that was preventing the upgrade from completing, so I’m currently waiting for that part to arrive.

As for the Tesla Wall Connector, I opted for the Tesla Universal Connector because it supports both the NACS (Tesla connector) and J1772 (other manufacturers). Next year, several car manufacturers, including Porsche, will adopt NACS, making the Tesla Wall Connector the best choice for me. It comes with a four-year warranty and supports 11 kW, which is the maximum capacity for the Macan using AC charging.

While Porsche offers a nice Level 2 charger, it’s quite expensive and doesn’t support NACS. However, it does provide up to 19 kW in AC. I believe 9 kW should suffice for most situations. Here’s the link for the Porsche Level 2 charger.

The charger itself is inside of the car, this actually just a power supply.

https://shop.porsche.com/us/en-US/p/porsche-wall-charger-connect-9J1068209-B/9J1068209

Porsche includes the Porsche Universal Charger with Macan/Taycan which is mobile NEMA 14-50/6-50 and max 9.6 kW (40 amps on a 50 amp breaker) - J-1772 - it is an L2 EVSE - or L1 - the Porsche Universal Charger supports modular power supply cables - and Porsche offers NEMA 5-15 (L1 - 12/15 amps) - NEMA 14-30/6-30 (L2 - 24/30 amps) - NEMA 14-50/6-50 (L2 40/50 amps) - so it's either an L1 or L2 EVSE depending on what power supply cable you currently have connected to it. It's charge rate varies from 1.44 kW to max of 9.6 kW - again depending on what what powersupply cable is currently connected.

the Porsche Wall Charger is an L2 charger that is hardwired only (not mobile) - adjustable from 12 amps to 80 amps (15 to 100 amp breakers) - J-1772 - you can purchase it separately - hardwired EVSE's are the only way to have an EVSE that supports more than 9.6 kW in North America - 11 kW is the max charge rate for the Macan (currently) - Taycan gen1 have an optional 19.2 kW factory option - that's a 80/100 amp EVSE (like the PWCC or other J-1772 hardwired EVSEs) - 19.2 kW option is so far not offered for Macan or gen2 Taycans - time will tell if this becomes an option for North America Macan's/Gen2-Taycan's - it was an option for gen-1 Taycans.

Any J-1772 EVSE can charge a NCAS EV with an adapter - to date all NCAS vehicle's come with a J-1772 adapter (you need one to use public L2 J-1772 chargers like ChargePoint)

this $37 adapter will let NACS EV's charger with J-1772 EVSE's - https://ev-lectron.com/products/lec...v-ac-compatible-with-sae-j1772-chargers-black

VW has announced support in 2025 (note VW's press release is very very vague as to when in 2025 - could be January 2025 or December 2025) for Supercharging and NCAS - what is less clear however is if NACS native ports will show up on Porsche EV natively - I'm estimating 2026/2027 model year is the soonest - the support will most likley be via adapters - I'd be surprised if NACS ports show up in VW/Audi/Porsche vehicle's before 2028…but we'll see - for the Record supporting superchargers only requires a physical adapters and software updates for the vehicles - adoption of NACS as a native port on the vehicle could come much much later - as to when/if VW/Audi/Porsche will ship a NACS native EVSE - well that will most likely be at the same time as they ship a native NACS vehicle…again no timeline has been shared to date.

this is the last official announcement from VW - https://media.vw.com/en-us/releases/1774 - no updates have been issued, and no additional information has been provided almost a year later - I encourage people to read it word for word and note what it doesn't say as much as what it does say. It was carefully worded and specifically vague in many many places where clarity would have been easy and helpful.

this post might help you sort the NACS vs. J-1772 situation - https://www.macanevowners.com/forum/threads/dont-overthink-the-nacs-native-port-transition….16867/

 

[Senna]

I’m aware of the mobile charger that comes with the Taycan/Macan, but I found several reports advising against using NEMA outlets for EV charging, as they were primarily designed for dryers. To be safe, I opted for a dedicated hardware charger that has received strong recommendations for EVs.

Additionally, I installed a whole-house surge protector for $300, including installation.

 

[daveo4EV]

if you were to own a NACS native EV - you would want to consider having these two adapters when traveling away from home and your normal charging infrastructure…

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lec...v-ac-compatible-with-sae-j1772-chargers-black
https://ev-lectron.com/products/lec...ast-charge-your-tesla-with-ccs-chargers-black

if you were to own a J-1772/CCS native EV - you would want to consider having these two adapters when traveling away from home and your normal charging infrastructure…

https://ev-lectron.com/products/lec...tination-chargers-and-mobile-connectors-black
https://ev-lectron.com/products/lectron-vortex-plug-tesla-supercharger-nacs-to-ccs-adapter

NACS EV's need access to J-1772 and CCS1 EV chargers
J-1772/CCS1 EV's need access to NACS L1/L2 and NACS DCFastChargers (superchargers)

so either type of EV can benefit from having two adapters when traveling.

it's going to be this way for a while because there will be EV chargers "in the wild" that have not been updated to the "new" standard - so you will/need/should have two adapters with you when venturing away from home so you can use any EV charger you happen to encounter in North American

it won't be practical/universal to travel without an adapter(s) for quite a while regardless of what type of native port your EV comes with.

 

[daveo4EV]

I’m aware of the mobile charger that comes with the Taycan/Macan, but I found several reports advising against using NEMA outlets for EV charging, as they were primarily designed for dryers. To be safe, I opted for a dedicated hardware charger that has received strong recommendations for EVs.

Additionally, I installed a whole-house surge protector for $300, including installation.

that's good advice - most pre-installed NEMA 14-50/6-50 power sockets were not industrial/commerical grade sockets - and when subjected to multi-hour charging sessions daily they absorbed thermal stress and could eventually fail - this in combination with a nominal operating temperature of the original Porsche Mobile Charger Plus (PMC+) or Porsche Mobile Charger Connect (PMCC) lead to a terrible reputation in the Taycan community and an eventual recall from Porsche that they have yet to recover from (many many Taycan owners are still waiting for their recall to be fulfilled - in the mean time Porsche's recall recommended owners stop using the L2 power supply cables, leaving owners without a functional L2 EVSE unless they purchased one on their own)

Porsche had to release this article covering the minimum requirements for home installs - https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...-related-porsche-ntsb-article-analysis.13902/

if you have proper wire gauge and a commerical grade NEMA socket like the one Porsche recommends there is minimal risk with a mobile EVSE, but hardwired is better and less problematic and certainly will not experience the overheating problems that were endemic to the PMC+/PMCC

the full 4+ year history of the PMC+/PMCC is covered here - https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...uide-to-the-porsche-evse-pmc-pmcc-pwcc.13886/

and many Taycan owners moved away from Porsche as a viable EVSE vendor when it was clear Porsche didn't understand the core problem with their EVSE, issued an OTA update that cut the charge rate by 50%, tried to blame the victims, and even once they issued the recall were completely incapable of providing any meaningful customer support when there were issues. many Taycan owners have gone with alternative EVSE's and are much happier for it…

 

[macanchan]

Did anyone get their charger to sync with the app?

My charger did not come with a PUK 10 digit code. Anyone else get theirs?

 

[D00]

If the same as previous versions:
With internet access, PMCC settings User Profile should present a QR code. Point a phone camera at this. The QR code URL allowed input of Porsche ID logon credentials and associated the PMCC with the MyPorsche app Vehicle Details Charging History (I had to close and reopen the app to make this visible)
You can also achieve this by determining the local IP address from the charger, browsing to this and using an app interface with the Web Home User password quoted on the sheet from the envelope that came with the charger bag of bits.

 

[daveo4EV]

Did anyone get their charger to sync with the app?

My charger did not come with a PUK 10 digit code. Anyone else get theirs?

I do not believe the PUC (Porsche Universal Charger) provides WiFi/Internet access - for that your need a PMCC (Porsche Mobile Charger Connect) or PWC (Porsche Wall Charger) - both of which have LCD screens

the only feature enabled by this is uploading of charging statistics to your Porsche portal/account…

if you want charging statistics there are far far better/cheaper/higher-quality alternative EVSE's to accomplish this.

 

[daveo4EV]

Here is what came with my 2024 Macan Turbo EV

• Porsche Universal Charger (PUC) IC-CPD Basis 9.6 kW Type 1 40 amp
  • Part #: 9Y0-971.675.DM
• this appears identical to the PMC/PMC+ unit - so I'm not sure what the actual difference is
  • but it does appear to come withe a "beefier" EVSE to Vehicle j-1772 charging cable - this cable is "fixed" to the unit and can not be swapped
  • it does have "new" sticker on the front with some warning stickers/iconography that was added to the PMCC/PMC/PMC+ units during a recall
• A Wall mount bracket of some type - this appears to be a "guide" for the J-1777 charging cable
  • Part #:7PP.971.605
• Another wall mounting - appears to be a "holster" for the J-1772 charing plug
  • Part #:7PP.915.343
• A wall mount for the PUC/EVSE
  • Part #: 7PP.943.109.A
• Porsche Mobile Charger Manual
• NEMA 5-15 power supply cable - 1.44 kW charge rate - 120V/15 amp circuit breaker
  • Part #: 7PP.971.678.FQ
• NEMA 14-50 power supply cable - 9.6 kW charge rate - 240V/50 amp circuit breaker
  • Part #: 7PP.971.678.GA - this is new part number fo the same type of cable vs. the NEMA 14-50 cable that came with my 2020 Taycan and 2021 Cayenne eHybrid
  • I'm going to venture this the new "recall" cable - it has thicker 8 gauge wire for better thermal performance and it also most likely has the thermal sensor to allow the PUC/EVSE to detecxt and slow/stop charging if the cable is getting 'too warm'
  • it also has the NEMA plug facing the "wrong" way - which requires you to twist the plug-head to plug it in - this is a thing on the Taycan forums as people are receiving the "recall" cable and with the plug-head facing 180 degrees the wrong way it's now hard to get the plug to reach their NEMA socket…
    • https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/threads/new-charger-cable-plug-points-away-from-wall.20728/
    • https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...uide-to-the-porsche-evse-pmc-pmcc-pwcc.13886/
  • inspection of the NEMA 14-50 power supply cable confirms there is still no "4th" wire for the electrical neutral - the PUC remains a 3 wire EVSE (as expected and required for North America).
• Two power suplpy cable plug-end covers
• one baggy with a "set screw" and a custom wrench for the set-screw to attach the power supply cables to the PUC/EVSE
  • part #: 9YO.927.129
• Canvas storage bag to hold everything and two carbiner loops to anchor it inside the car.

the unit appears to be the same size/weight as the previous PMC+/PMC unit - and over all just seems to be a slightly warmed over EVSE that will have the same pros/cons as the PMC+/PMCC that Porsche provided(s) with other Hybrids/EV's - the NEMA 14-50 plug head facing the wrong way is subject to yet another recall - in that Porsche will replace the power supply cable with another unit with the plug-head rotated 180 degress so it faces the wall when plugged into the PUC/EVSE…{sigh} they remain somewhat clueless on their EVSE game…

Post #1 of this thread documents Porsche's "knowledge" of the wrong way facing plug head on the NEMA 14-50 cable…Porsche's EVSE game remains "weak sauce" - I have no plans to use the PUC unit and will charge my Macan with non-Porsche EVSE's that have demonstrably fewer problems…

but this post is to factually document what is included with the Macan EV and confirms it's basically a warmed over PMC+ unit…there are better EVSE options for North America.

 

[daveo4EV]

given the 99.9% similarity between the Macan's included EVSE the Porsche Universal Charter and the PMC/PMC+ - I see no reason why the published Porsche TBS about installation requirements for their EVSE would be any different…

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...-related-porsche-ntsb-article-analysis.13902/

See Porsche's publishing home installation guidelines in the link above for the Hybrid/Taycan community.

in particular note the requirement for a Hubble industrial grade NEMA socket - and their distain for 120V charging…don't believe me - well you can read Porsche's own words on the subject in the link above.

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