Help with 4S config

[Jeroen]

Hey everyone,

First of all, thank you to everyone posting and sharing their experiences with the Macan. It's been a great read and helped me decide to go for the Macan after all.

I've specced out the following Macan 4S PSL328F0, and I'd like some advice. It's already on order, but I'm unsure about a couple of choices and I want to be certain before it gets locked down.

I'd like some feedback on a couple of thoughts:

• I'm coming from a Tesla Model Y Performance and I love the acceleration. I picked the 4S, because the Turbo's price feels a bit steep. Any regrets from anyone coming from a MYP to a 4S? Do you miss it?
• I've configured the offroad design pack, because I'm not a big fan of the amount of plastic. But I'm a bit unsure about how it will look on a black car. I'm thinking to remove it, because the plastic will not stand out that much on a black car.
• I picked high gloss coloured rims, but I'm unsure whether I shouldn't pick the satin black?
• Bose sound system: I'm not an audiophile but great sound is pretty important. I've heard that it needs some time to break in. Is this true?
• 14 way or 18 way comfort seats? I'm 1m90. I test drove in the 18 way seats and my back felt a bit uncomfortable so I picked the 14 way
• Porsche Torque Vectoring: I didn't include it, it felt like overkill. Does it have any impact on the performance of 4S?
• I added InnoDrive. Worth it?

Thank you so much for helping me!

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[grizzler]

Here we go:
https://porsche-code.com/PS6GE9P7
4S with most important upgrade called turbo

 

[Jeroen]

Thanks @grizzler! So you'd leave out those options for going to the Turbo?

 

[grizzler]

Thanks @grizzler! So you'd leave out those options for going to the Turbo?

Absolutely. But thats (of course) only my opinion.
I would prefer a "must have equipped" turbo rather than a "loaded 4S"...
My turbo:
https://configurator.porsche.com/porsche-code/PRMBLU83
Wheels satin, because i wanted to avoid as much glossy as possible (micro scratches and so on..)
Bose should be standard IMHO
But the most important point: If you come from a Model Y performance and "love the acceleration" you have to go for the turbo.
Everything my humble opinion, no offence!

 

[W1NGE]

Hey everyone,

First of all, thank you to everyone posting and sharing their experiences with the Macan. It's been a great read and helped me decide to go for the Macan after all.

I've specced out the following Macan 4S PSL328F0, and I'd like some advice. It's already on order, but I'm unsure about a couple of choices and I want to be certain before it gets locked down.

I'd like some feedback on a couple of thoughts:

• I'm coming from a Tesla Model Y Performance and I love the acceleration. I picked the 4S, because the Turbo's price feels a bit steep. Any regrets from anyone coming from a MYP to a 4S? Do you miss it?
• I've configured the offroad design pack, because I'm not a big fan of the amount of plastic. But I'm a bit unsure about how it will look on a black car. I'm thinking to remove it, because the plastic will not stand out that much on a black car.
• I picked high gloss coloured rims, but I'm unsure whether I shouldn't pick the satin black?
• Bose sound system: I'm not an audiophile but great sound is pretty important. I've heard that it needs some time to break in. Is this true?
• 14 way or 18 way comfort seats? I'm 1m90. I test drove in the 18 way seats and my back felt a bit uncomfortable so I picked the 14 way
• Porsche Torque Vectoring: I didn't include it, it felt like overkill. Does it have any impact on the performance of 4S?
• I added InnoDrive. Worth it?

Thank you so much for helping me!

I had a 4S for the weekend just passed so can share some thoughts.

• Heated front screen
• Bose - disappointing and really needs to be reviewed by Porsche (I have it in my Taycan and I would always recommend but unless the installation is addressed the standard Sound Plus would be the wise choice.
• 14-way comfort seats - very good plus you get the powered steering wheel adjustment.
• 21" wheels - ride quality could have been better - again 21" in the Taycan and the ride is sublime. 22" personally I would avoid - impact on range. Road noise is also more intrusive than you might imagine (even with 21") again when compared to the Taycan. Satin would be my colour choice.
• Air suspension is a must.
• PTV (torque vectoring) - not a performance aid per se - handy in snowy conditions and good for overall driving dynamics, not essential. Rear Axle Steering (RAS) again handy but this is a short vehicle so not really an overall necessity.
• Rear wiper is a must - window stays surprisingly clear from spray but lying water takes quite some time to clear and therefore will frustrate. You will have to forgo the insulated glass however. Think of raining - parking / manoeuvring at low speed. The 4S I had was all black and after 250 miles the rear was filthy but the rear window clear.
• 4-zone AC - likely not needed and will use more energy
• Surround cameras are a must - ridiculous that only a single rear camera is standard!
• Electric charge port doors - the manual ones are awful and sit proud of the bodywork as if they weren't meant for the car or don't actually fit.

A word on range - 2.3 miles / kWh is what I achieved at normal sensible driving on a 126 mile journey and in Normal drive mode - disappointing to say the least. New car so still battery learning but watch out for this 'surprise' and hope that it gets to 3.0 and above.

InnoDrive falls victim to poor road signage and mapping - I would honestly avoid it but perhaps the roads in Holland / Europe are perfectly mapped. Lots of misreading of speed limits too - this leads to unplanned deceleration to the extent that you would tend to switch it off.

 

[Jeroen]

Thanks @grizzler, you're making me seriously consider the Turbo again. I'm gonna check with my SA to see if I can still swap it. I'm eyeing this config now.

And thanks @W1NGE! Much appreciated your input. Any thoughts on losing noise reduction in favor of the rear wiper? I don't have a rear wiper in my MYP and I don't miss it (the back window is pretty much useless on that car).

 

[grizzler]

Maybe helpful: Did not miss the rear wiper a single second. Even in our cold and rainy german winter.

 

[W1NGE]

Thanks @grizzler, you're making me seriously consider the Turbo again. I'm gonna check with my SA to see if I can still swap it. I'm eyeing this config now.

And thanks @W1NGE! Much appreciated your input. Any thoughts on losing noise reduction in favor of the rear wiper? I don't have a rear wiper in my MYP and I don't miss it (the back window is pretty much useless on that car).

The Macan EV is not as quiet as you might expect. Cheaper materials / cheaper build. Large rims will create more road noise and because you're in an EV this will become more audible.

Insulated glass really only reduces noise from passing traffic which by the way is more noticeable in the Macan EV with regular glass and it won't do much for road noise surfacing from the foot wells / wheel arches of the car.

The only reason Porsche took the decision to make the wiper optional was to reduce the drag COE (yes, apparently true) by a smidgen at the expense of, well, safety I guess!

If you have the pano roof then again you'll get more noise entering and so you end up in a quandary - you want a serene place to be so you add insulated glass which removes the option for a wiper (so visibility can be impaired) add a pano roof (which isn't noise insulated and therefore more noise) and then to cap it off you add 22" rims (and therefore tyre roar).

Personally I would skip insulated glass but its a case of pay your money and make your choice in the full knowledge that some of the options will compete / conflict with the objective of maintaining serenity.

The only real reason (if it were a problem) for me to consider insulated glass would be the anti-theft protection that it delivers - the film within the glass is really tough and makes opportunistic thefts problematic for the would be thief.

 

[Jeroen]

Thanks for your thoughtful insights @W1NGE! I'm on the fence on whether to keep the pano roof. The biggest reason I picked it was because I like some light in the cabin.

I test drove the Turbo and the 4S, on 22' wheels. In both cases, the road noise was acceptable. I'm coming from a MYP, so the bar on road noise is pretty low.

 

[alxman]

Thanks for your thoughtful insights @W1NGE! I'm on the fence on whether to keep the pano roof. The biggest reason I picked it was because I like some light in the cabin.

I test drove the Turbo and the 4S, on 22' wheels. In both cases, the road noise was acceptable. I'm coming from a MYP, so the bar on road noise is pretty low.

I have noise insulation glass and a pano roof and love them both. The cabin is very very quiet! I don’t notice any significant road noise or vibration even when on sport or sport plus. I did option my 4S with 20” wheels though. However, I have read that you do notice a lot more when on 22” wheels. Maybe consider 21” as a compromise? I don’t miss the rear wiper at all. Just my opinion based on my experience with this car. I hope it helps…

 

[SimonEV]

I had a Tesla Model 3 Long Range (AWD) MY21 before getting a Macan 4S. The Model 3 has a sharper throttle response so you can get an almost neck snapping acceleration that the 4S doesn’t have. Whilst that is a good party trick, it doesn’t mean that the 4S is missing out, only that it is more measured and controllable.

The Porsche Configurator makes it easy to switch options like wheel size and the overall specification lists the theoretical range. It doesn’t show range for each wheel size as you change e.g., switch from 20” wheels to 21” and it only says about the extra cost. If it said the increase is £1,600 and range is reduced by 7% then that would be more informative? For 22” it’s about 10% so something to at least be aware of?

 

[raybey]

I had a Tesla Model 3 Long Range (AWD) MY21 before getting a Macan 4S. The Model 3 has a sharper throttle response so you can get an almost neck snapping acceleration that the 4S doesn’t have. Whilst that is a good party trick, it doesn’t mean that the 4S is missing out, only that it is more measured and controllable.

The Porsche Configurator makes it easy to switch options like wheel size and the overall specification lists the theoretical range. It doesn’t show range for each wheel size as you change e.g., switch from 20” wheels to 21” and it only says about the extra cost. If it said the increase is £1,600 and range is reduced by 7% then that would be more informative? For 22” it’s about 10% so something to at least be aware of?

The configurator does show the change in range with each wheel size. You just have to scroll back up to the top and click on Technical data and standard equipment each time and it will display the new range figure

I came from Model 3 Long Range (AWD) with acceleration boost and find the performance very much on par with the Macan 4S. Agreed with the progressive nature of the acceleration with the Macan, which I think I actually prefer now. Launch control provides a bit of a jolt to the neck if that's how you like it

 

[Jeroen]

@SimonEV I noticed the difference in throttle response as well. When test driving, I thought the car was a lot slower, but then I found myself over the speed limit a lot quicker than I realized. In a way, the car accelerates a lot more composed in a way.

I test drove twice on 22s: the road noise definitely felt ok, also on that size of wheel. Nothing that was concerning either.

On range: I see a lot of different reports here on the forum. Some people claiming near 300Wh/km, others claiming near 180Wh/km. Winter will obviously have a large effect on this too, I guess?

 

[adamjay79]

Coming from a M3P Highland the turbo was the only option.

22’s look amazing and the road noise wasn’t more so than my Tesla.

I like the contrast of the HGB against the Ice Gray.

I didn’t do insulated glass as it can hurt cell reception.

RWS, AHUD, and passenger display were a must for me.

Here’s the build: https://porsche-code.com/PSQR8FE7

 

[centrovi]

Check this color accents. I saw it and looks wild.
https://porsche-code.com/PSCZPGG2

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