First Sighting - Macan EVSE Charger for North America…???

daveo4EV · Aug 14, 2024

this thread contains picture of the Porsche EVSE that is currently being shipped with 2024 Cayenne eHybrid's (11 kW max charge rate for the vehicle, 9.6 kW max charge rate for the EVSE - standard and common no surprises here)

NOTE: I'm not 100% sure this is the unit North American Macan EV's will receive - but it seems likely if this what they are including with their current 2024 Hybrid's…so this is speculation, but informed speculation.

https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-9y0-2019/1421901-another-e-hybrid-questiono.html

It looks a lot like the PMC+, but it's not a PMC+ and has a new part number…

I would be unsurprised if this is what we end up with being included with all of our Macan's…time will tell.

No word yet on wire gauge and/or thermal sensor in the power supply cable…, but from the picture it's hard to tell but some of the wires look "thicker" so we might have 8 gauge or 6 gauge wire in the power supply cable…

I'm not 100% sure - but I think it's a new part number - anyone with a PMC+ care to confirm from part number on the back of their existing unit?

Part #: 9Y0.971.675.DM
Called a: Porsche Universal Charger - hence forth known as a PUC

so we now have the following known Porsche EVSE's running around

PMC - Porsche Mobile Charger
PMC+ - Porsche Mobile Charger Plus
PMCC - Porsche Mobile Charger Connect
PUC - Porsche Universal Charger
PWCC - Porsche Wall Charger Connect
PWC - Porsche Wall Charger (new design - not clear if it's been released)

I would be unsurprised if Porsche discontinues the PMC/PMC+/PWCC in favor of:

PUC - new EVSE shown in this thread
PMCC - keep shipping the PMCC for LCD screen and Wifi?
PWC - New Wall charger replacing the old Wall Charger in the product catalog.

the PMCC is the ONLY EVSE from Porsche that I'm aware of with a disconnect able EVSE to vehicle cable (25ft) - the other units all have "fixed" EVSE to vehicle cables typically 15ft in length or less

the PMC, PMC+, PMCC, PUC all have disconnect able power supply cables with various NEMA socket types supported - the PWCC, PWC are wall mounted non-mobile units and are hardwired.

see pictures…

Electric Macan EV First Sighting - Macan EVSE Charger for North America…??? img_6118_5845d9c61cab5e8b25839e96cc25823518cdccda

Electric Macan EV First Sighting - Macan EVSE Charger for North America…??? img_6119_a37581def8b98f45672e8c2fc4be5b81add409d0

bbmertz · Aug 14, 2024

Here’s a photo of the mobile charger in use with a Macan EV inside the Atlanta PEC last weekend. Unfortunately the charger is upside down so I couldn’t see the charger display.

Electric Macan EV First Sighting - Macan EVSE Charger for North America…??? IMG_2646

daveo4EV · Aug 15, 2024

bbmertz said:
Here’s a photo of the mobile charger in use with a Macan EV inside the Atlanta PEC last weekend. Unfortunately the charger is upside down so I couldn’t see the charger display.

this is a helpful picture - but remember _ANY_ EVSE will charge _ANY_ EV - so this may not necessarily be what's included with the Macan - it may be a Porsche EVSE they had "on hand" - also it looks to be a euro-spec Macan cause it seems to be using an adapter - NOTE; how the J-1772 plug is offset from the body of the car - it seems they are using an adapter for for the Euro-plug…

bbmertz · Aug 15, 2024

daveo4EV said:
this is a helpful picture - but remember _ANY_ EVSE will charge _ANY_ EV - so this may not necessarily be what's included with the Macan - it may be a Porsche EVSE they had "on hand" - also it looks to be a euro-spec Macan cause it seems to be using an adapter - NOTE; how the J-1772 plug is offset from the body of the car - it seems they are using an adapter for for the Euro-plug…

Good point since the PEC mentioned that many of their Macan EV demos were from Singapore with Euro specs.

daveo4EV · Aug 15, 2024

daveo4EV said:
this thread contains picture of the Porsche EVSE that is currently being shipped with 2024 Cayenne eHybrid's (11 kW max charge rate for the vehicle, 9.6 kW max charge rate for the EVSE - standard and common no surprises here)

NOTE: I'm not 100% sure this is the unit North American Macan EV's will receive - but it seems likely if this what they are including with their current 2024 Hybrid's…so this is speculation, but informed speculation.

https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-9y0-2019/1421901-another-e-hybrid-questiono.html

It looks a lot like the PMC+, but it's not a PMC+ and has a new part number…

I would be unsurprised if this is what we end up with being included with all of our Macan's…time will tell.

No word yet on wire gauge and/or thermal sensor in the power supply cable…, but from the picture it's hard to tell but some of the wires look "thicker" so we might have 8 gauge or 6 gauge wire in the power supply cable…

I'm not 100% sure - but I think it's a new part number - anyone with a PMC+ care to confirm from part number on the back of their existing unit?

Part #: 9Y0.971.675.DM
Called a: Porsche Universal Charger - hence forth known as a PUC

so we now have the following known Porsche EVSE's running around

PMC - Porsche Mobile Charger

PMC+ - Porsche Mobile Charger Plus

PMCC - Porsche Mobile Charger Connect

PUC - Porsche Universal Charger

PWCC - Porsche Wall Charger Connect

PWC - Porsche Wall Charger (new design - not clear if it's been released)

I would be unsurprised if Porsche discontinues the PMC/PMC+/PWCC in favor of:

PUC - new EVSE shown in this thread

PMCC - keep shipping the PMCC for LCD screen and Wifi?

PWC - New Wall charger replacing the old Wall Charger in the product catalog.

the PMCC is the ONLY EVSE from Porsche that I'm aware of with a disconnect able EVSE to vehicle cable (25ft) - the other units all have "fixed" EVSE to vehicle cables typically 15ft in length or less

the PMC, PMC+, PMCC, PUC all have disconnect able power supply cables with various NEMA socket types supported - the PWCC, PWC are wall mounted non-mobile units and are hardwired.

see pictures…

for me personally it doesn't matter what EVSE Porsche is shipping in North American as the "included" EVSE - I won't be using it - too big, too heavy, too crappy - I'll use my existing EVSE installs and carefully pack away the included one until I sell/trade the vehicle…

the 2024 Cayenne one looks like a re-branded PMC+ to my eyes - although it's unclear if there have been any "internal" improvements - but it appears to be same size/shape - given the thickness of some of the power cords in the picture - I'm pretty confident it's the redesigned NEMA 14-50/6-50 power supply cables - no word on if it runs any cooler/better.

W1NGE · Aug 15, 2024

daveo4EV said:
this thread contains picture of the Porsche EVSE that is currently being shipped with 2024 Cayenne eHybrid's (11 kW max charge rate for the vehicle, 9.6 kW max charge rate for the EVSE - standard and common no surprises here)

NOTE: I'm not 100% sure this is the unit North American Macan EV's will receive - but it seems likely if this what they are including with their current 2024 Hybrid's…so this is speculation, but informed speculation.

https://rennlist.com/forums/cayenne-9y0-2019/1421901-another-e-hybrid-questiono.html

It looks a lot like the PMC+, but it's not a PMC+ and has a new part number…

I would be unsurprised if this is what we end up with being included with all of our Macan's…time will tell.

No word yet on wire gauge and/or thermal sensor in the power supply cable…, but from the picture it's hard to tell but some of the wires look "thicker" so we might have 8 gauge or 6 gauge wire in the power supply cable…

I'm not 100% sure - but I think it's a new part number - anyone with a PMC+ care to confirm from part number on the back of their existing unit?

Part #: 9Y0.971.675.DM
Called a: Porsche Universal Charger - hence forth known as a PUC

so we now have the following known Porsche EVSE's running around

PMC - Porsche Mobile Charger

PMC+ - Porsche Mobile Charger Plus

PMCC - Porsche Mobile Charger Connect

PUC - Porsche Universal Charger

PWCC - Porsche Wall Charger Connect

PWC - Porsche Wall Charger (new design - not clear if it's been released)

I would be unsurprised if Porsche discontinues the PMC/PMC+/PWCC in favor of:

PUC - new EVSE shown in this thread

PMCC - keep shipping the PMCC for LCD screen and Wifi?

PWC - New Wall charger replacing the old Wall Charger in the product catalog.

the PMCC is the ONLY EVSE from Porsche that I'm aware of with a disconnect able EVSE to vehicle cable (25ft) - the other units all have "fixed" EVSE to vehicle cables typically 15ft in length or less

the PMC, PMC+, PMCC, PUC all have disconnect able power supply cables with various NEMA socket types supported - the PWCC, PWC are wall mounted non-mobile units and are hardwired.

see pictures…

Pretty sure that no EVSEs are being supplied as standard now in UK for either Macan EV or Taycan - missing from standard specification and there are new "stylish" options to purchase.

Diego · Aug 15, 2024

Same for Italy unfortunately.... :crying:

And more than 900€ + 140€ for the schuko 16A socket is a little too much...
Tesla Mobile charger costs 200€ and does the same job....

daveo4EV · Aug 15, 2024

I received a Porsche (PCNA) survey the other day - questions were clearly indicating Porsche is trying to figure out if you even still need to include an EVSE…

these things are like USB power bricks, everyone has one these days and you don' need one with each EV…

Tesla has stopped including one with each car, but you can easily purchase one should you need it…

personally given how crappy the North American Porsche unit is - I'd prefer to skip it (it's a waste of a product, and will never be used in my household - should skip manufacturing it and eventually disposing of it in a land fill)…

for North America there are lots of excellent choices, and simple effective training for Porsche service/sales people would lower the FUD factor on these things and everyone could use what ever external EVSE they like…

Diego · Aug 15, 2024

daveo4EV said:
Tesla has stopped including one with each car, but you can easily purchase one should you need it…

In Europe it's included with MS and MX. But as you wrote you can easily get one for a lot less than Porsche Mobile Charger...

DuckMan · Aug 16, 2024

ChargePoint plus going in here next week 11.5 on a 60 amp breaker. I'll take whatever they give me and see what I want to do with it. Sure as hell not dropping 1600+ dollars for their branded EVSE.

daveo4EV · Aug 16, 2024

DuckMan said:
ChargePoint plus going in here next week 11.5 on a 60 amp breaker. I'll take whatever they give me and see what I want to do with it. Sure as hell not dropping 1600+ dollars for their branded EVSE.

charge point can do a full 50 amp charge rate on 70 amp breaker - get it if you can - macan is max 48 amps - but other EVs can do more.

great choice!

W1NGE · Aug 17, 2024

Diego said:
Same for Italy unfortunately....
And more than 900€ + 140€ for the schuko 16A socket is a little too much...
Tesla Mobile charger costs 200€ and does the same job....

16A? You'd be better with 32A to get up to 7.4kW for home charging.

Diego · Aug 18, 2024

W1NGE said:
16A? You'd be better with 32A to get up to 7.4kW for home charging.

I have a 32A wall box for home charging (and I usually charge at 7kW), the mobile is for emergency (and Tesla’s one have also 32A interchangeable cable).

Senna · Aug 19, 2024

I purchased the Tesla Universal Wall Connector and had it professionally installed with a 60A breaker. It's all set up and ready for the Macan EV 4's arrival on 09/20.

Walter32 · Oct 4, 2024

Senna said:
I purchased the Tesla Universal Wall Connector and had it professionally installed with a 60A breaker. It's all set up and ready for the Macan EV 4's arrival on 09/20.

Have you taken delivery and are you happy with your charging arrangement? I have a professionally installed Tesla Wall level 2 charger which I have been using since I purchased my Model S in 2016. I have also used it with a Tesla to J1772 adapter to charge my Rivian R1S and my wife's Volvo XC 60 PHEV. Do you know if Porsche endorses the use of the Tesla charger?
Do you know if the Porsche supplied charger is level 2? I have been trying to find information wrt how fast it charges but have not been successful. Thank you.

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