Thoughts After a Month & 1500 Miles With My Macan Turbo EV, Coming From Tesla Model S

[byebye]

So right now I have the diamond programed to toggle the 360 deg camera

Do you know that when you tap one time on the auto park button (bottom left on the pcm) and you tap again on it, it displays 360 deg cameras…

That’s why diamond button is assigned to speed limit

 

[TaycanEagle]

You decide nothing with a Tesla, you always need to keep the foot on the accelerator, I hated that on the Tesla. Turning OPD off and pressing the brake pedal on the Tesla you have ZERO regen … It’s mind blowing how people prefer this while any other ICE car or EV from other manufacturers just coast (coasting is the most efficient way and it was bothering me a lot I needed to keep my foot on the pedal with a Tesla, why??). So with the Porsche I have infinite more control on the regen / coasting and it behaves exactly the same as all my other brand cars + I can relax my foot on long drives …
For that second part if I do understand correctly you just program a departure time … the car will start charging to be full at the specified time, it will start charging immediately to figure out what power it has but will then pause and start charging to reach the desired level at departure time.

And it sucks being behind a Tesla that brakes with no brake lights! I’m not a Tesla hater but you really can’t compare a Tesla and a Porsche EV. Porsche is a sports car maker and they will always prioritize performance and driver experience over driving a computer letting the computer drive you.

 

[daveo4EV]

And it sucks being behind a Tesla that brakes with no brake lights! I’m not a Tesla hater but you really can’t compare a Tesla and a Porsche EV. Porsche is a sports car maker and they will always prioritize performance and driver experience over driving a computer letting the computer drive you.

in addition to brake pedal - these days brake lights are trigger by accelerometer measurements - once the car is decelerating beyond a certain rate in terms of meters/sec the brake lights will illuminate even if the brake pedal not depressed - it’s this way on All modern EVs (Taycan/Macan included) - i know for a fact that tesla brake lights illuminate under one pedal driving once the deceleration threshold is met…

 

[Fun TC Driving]

As daveeo4EV noted, that so many negative initial posters are not only new to the forum but very often one post and gone. Same occurs on every one of the over 15 car forums I have been a part of.

In short, do they even own a Porsche on this forum or a ____ on the other forum? Could well be that they do not.

Of course a well thought out, fair criticism post is fine, but a hit and run, blanket mega-assault is not appropriate. If one posts that the Tesla’s back seat is bigger, that is fact. If one posts that the Lucid Air gets more range, that is fact. But to come out and post one-sided hate like the Macan EV is overpriced crap is inappropriate. And inaccurate.

 

[shawn]

Do you know that when you tap one time on the auto park button (bottom left on the pcm) and you tap again on it, it displays 360 deg cameras…

That’s why diamond button is assigned to speed limit

Oh yes but you need to look over a double tap to get the overhead camera to turn on. I suppose it’s no big deal but I am liking just having one button press to bring it all up. Also sometimes for no apparent reason that PCM button becomes grayed out and not available even when I can use the programed button to always bring it up. Not sure What is going on with that to be honest. See picture below. Any idea why? Finally when you go into park the PCM icon is replaced by the goodbye charger icon which is minor annoyance because I would like to turn the camera on when parked to check distance sometimes without putting the car in gear ( I have a tight garage)

 

[MFitz]

don't plug in until you want to charge - simple.

in the mean time sell your Macan and go back to Tesla - easy.

if you don't like it don't keep it.

if you think Tesla is better - good for you!

Porsche's are what they are - rarely everyone's cup of tea - but they make the best cars on the road and track…

I've owned several Tesla's - never again - and I have 30+ years in the software business - I appreciate their advantages, but deplore their weaknesses…

Porsche makes different trade offs vs. other manufacturers - I'm more comfortable with Porsche's short falls than Tesla's…it's a choice

and we can all vote with our pocket books - obviously you made a bad personal choice, move on - I'm happy with my Macan Turbo, and when driving my Son's Model Y the other day I was deeply reminded why I bought the Macan and not the Y…numb steering, iffy brakes (once you're out of regen), terrible turning radius, no sunroof, lots of road noise, and no HUD and lots and lots of plastic…miss the excellent cargo room however, the Y is best in class in that aspect…

I'll take a Model 3/Y over most anything in it's price range - if you want an american made EV that is the best eV with tons of features and clever software, there is nothing on the market that can touch it - if you want a quiet cabin, excellent suspension, air ride, factory brakes that will last on a track more than 4 laps (true story, I worn out Tesla's factory brakes in 4 laps @ my local track - never been in a car with factory brakes that bad/unsafe - good thing regen works, because the brakes don't should you need them) - but there are things Tesla does not do: dash board, turn stalks, upscale interiors, brakes, HUD, sun roofs, quiet, air suspension, paint to sample, massage seats, seat choices, interior colors, hand holds, track worthy-ness etc…

so as a consumer I made an informed choice and bought the car that had the correct set of trade offs for my personal tastes - nothing is wrong with Tesla. But it's not a Porsche, and Porsche is not a Tesla - and thank god we have choices, because only having one or the other would be a sad sad sad state of affairs.

make the choice that is best for you.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/ele...ica-in-bombshell-car-safety-study/ar-AA1vgzVJ

the article above notes the problem is the population/demographic of driver's - not the car - but the people who drive it - that's fits and makes sense with what I've experienced, most people driving tesla's have never had that much acceleration/power -o cause it was out of their price range or availability - Tesla has pulled sports-car like behavior/performance down into the main stream - and the results are most driver's can't handle it - so far that's entirely consistent with data I'm observing - and consistent with people espousing Tesla's superiority on forums where they have no business making any commentary - I've driven more cars that most people, and driven those cars on track at speed - there are few if any brands that keep up with a stock porsche off the lot - and 99% of cars "off the lot" can't do track duty for more than a few laps - Tesla is by far the _WORST_ street car I've ever had on track - it's simply and factually awful, and not up to the task - that's ok it's optmized for efficiency and range, not robustness - it's a choice Tesla has made with their design which is the correct trade off - because to not hobble the range for 99.9% of their vehicles to have better track robustness for the 0.01% that will be tracked is the correct trade off for the product - but please don't tell me it's any good - because factually it's not - bring your Model 3 to my local track and watch me wear out the brakes in less than 15 miles (4 laps) and when you're flat-bedding it home, you can remind me how good it is again. I've never had a major production vehicle do as badly on track as my 2018 Model 3 performance - honestly it was horrible.

On the other hand I flogged a Macan Turbo @ PECATL for 90 minutes straight - full tilt - it never set of a foot wrong and it shrugged off the abuse and just kept working, and the brakes are still good, and this particluar Macan Turbo does this every day at PECATL for 4-6 hours of abuse…and it "just works'…the Tesla died on track in less than 12 minutes and had to be sent home on a flatbed, and the macan lasted on track more than 90 minutes and could come back for more…yeah I know which car is better. but you're welcome to be happy with your Tesla.

Could not agree more. That is what I love about this time in our history. We have choices and that is why there are so many options. Everyone has different needs. I totally agree with your take on Tesla having owned a few. Not for me when there are options anymore. Five years ago, not much choice if you wanted an EV that worked it almost had to be Tesla. I am willing to live through the learning curve of Porsche figuring out the tech. It will continue to improve.

 

[byebye]

Oh yes but you need to look over a double tap to get the overhead camera to turn on. I suppose it’s no big deal but I am liking just having one button press to bring it all up. Also sometimes for no apparent reason that PCM button becomes grayed out and not available even when I can use the programed button to always bring it up. Not sure What is going on with that to be honest. See picture below. Any idea why? Finally when you go into park the PCM icon is replaced by the goodbye charger icon which is minor annoyance because I would like to turn the camera on when parked to check distance sometimes without putting the car in gear ( I have a tight garage)

You're right, this button is only activated when the car is in motion.

 

[TaycanEagle]

in addition to brake pedal - these days brake lights are trigger by accelerometer measurements - once the car is decelerating beyond a certain rate in terms of meters/sec the brake lights will illuminate even if the brake pedal not depressed - it’s this way on All modern EVs (Taycan/Macan included) - i know for a fact that tesla brake lights illuminate under one pedal driving once the deceleration threshold is met…

Agreed. Unfortunately “beyond a certain rate” is key. When people have made a habit of tailgating I’ve seen one too many Tesla’s get rear ended in Texas. But maybe it’s just us. I also experienced a few close calls in my Taycan when using auto regen to the point I stopped using it.

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