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Now I need to buy another printer since my other one is in constant use with a backlog of things I need to print. Do I get the X1c or wait for the new models…
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Now I need to buy another printer since my other one is in constant use with a backlog of things I need to print. Do I get the X1c or wait for the new models…
As a 3D printer neophyte, I had asked on this thread if anyone had any printer recommendations. Not having received a response, I did some research, and tentatively settled on the X1C (which currently appears to be on backorder). But it appears to me it's been out for a while, and I did wonder if maybe a new version might be out soon.
 
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As a 3D printer neophyte, I had asked on this thread if anyone had any printer recommendations. Not having received a response, I did some research, and tentatively settled on the X1C (which currently appears to be on backorder). But it appears to me it's been out for a while, and I did wonder if maybe a new version might be out soon.
oh i'm sorry, i did see your post, but never got around to replying!

when i was researching printers, the 2 main options at the time were prusa and bambulabs. i'm sure there's more options now as the industry is fast-growing and changing, so take what i say with a grain of salt as the information may have changed or be incomplete.

prusa has a open-source heritage of contributing their ideas back to the public. bambulabs leveraged all of prusa's open-sourced information and built their own proprietary things on top of it that they did not open-source lol.

all things equal, i probably would have gone with prusa just to support their open-source ethos (and it would underscore the throughline of this post as i'm following in their footsteps and open-sourcing all my designs to the public as well!), but the cost + shipping time was just too much compared to bambulabs. on top of that, i would also need to figure out import taxes, and i just decided the purchase wouldn't be worth it.

i have the bambu p1s, it's a step down from the x1c, but i'm really happy with it! bambulabs has done a lot of work to create a product that introduces 3d-printing to the general public without having them understand all the complexities/domain knowledge associated with it. set-up was extremely easy, you basically just unbox it, attach the filament, download some bambu software, and upload whatever you want to print.

depending on how you plan to use the printer, you can also option the AMS on bambu printers which allows you to do multi-color prints (although the amount of filament churn is quite inefficient). my 3d printing use cases is to alleviate my ocd and i generally just need a single uniform color for my prints, so multi-color isn't really something that i need. but if you're into printing figurine models or something, then it'd be a painfree way to get additional colors into your prints.

bambu does have some security/privacy concerns as they relay all your prints to their cloud. i believe there was an incident few years ago where everyone's printers started printing in the middle of the night cause of a bug/glitch in the bambu servers.

personally, i am privacy-minded, so i've gotten around that by running my printers in LAN-only mode. I miss out on a lot of features, which are only available if the printer is connected to the cloud, but to me it's worth it knowing bambu has less control over my printer.

lastly, i'm sure you guys are all pretty well off, so i would suggest getting a good printer instead of some no-name crappy one off amazon. it's really annoying when a print fails, and not worth the cost-savings if you have to waste your time and filament to redo prints anyway.

hope this helps!
 
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I still prefer the Bambu printers to other options, though there are some other (particularly the Prusa) that are quite good.
I had a P1S, which frankly was great but I ended up giving it to my son and got myself the X1c. I really think it’s great, but I suspect the lack of inventory means the new machines are to be announced soon (they did originally say January).
What I really love about the Bambu printers is that they just work. With my printers before this, I easily spent as much, if not more time fixing and tweaking the damn printer as I did printing. I rarely need to tweak anything with these…
There are a few things I’d like to see improved though and rumors are that most of those items are actually fixed/changed with the upcoming models.
 

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oh i'm sorry, i did see your post, but never got around to replying!

when i was researching printers, the 2 main options at the time were prusa and bambulabs. i'm sure there's more options now as the industry is fast-growing and changing, so take what i say with a grain of salt as the information may have changed or be incomplete.

prusa has a open-source heritage of contributing their ideas back to the public. bambulabs leveraged all of prusa's open-sourced information and built their own proprietary things on top of it that they did not open-source lol.

all things equal, i probably would have gone with prusa just to support their open-source ethos (and it would underscore the throughline of this post as i'm following in their footsteps and open-sourcing all my designs to the public as well!), but the cost + shipping time was just too much compared to bambulabs. on top of that, i would also need to figure out import taxes, and i just decided the purchase wouldn't be worth it.

i have the bambu p1s, it's a step down from the x1c, but i'm really happy with it! bambulabs has done a lot of work to create a product that introduces 3d-printing to the general public without having them understand all the complexities/domain knowledge associated with it. set-up was extremely easy, you basically just unbox it, attach the filament, download some bambu software, and upload whatever you want to print.

depending on how you plan to use the printer, you can also option the AMS on bambu printers which allows you to do multi-color prints (although the amount of filament churn is quite inefficient). my 3d printing use cases is to alleviate my ocd and i generally just need a single uniform color for my prints, so multi-color isn't really something that i need. but if you're into printing figurine models or something, then it'd be a painfree way to get additional colors into your prints.

bambu does have some security/privacy concerns as they relay all your prints to their cloud. i believe there was an incident few years ago where everyone's printers started printing in the middle of the night cause of a bug/glitch in the bambu servers.

personally, i am privacy-minded, so i've gotten around that by running my printers in LAN-only mode. I miss out on a lot of features, which are only available if the printer is connected to the cloud, but to me it's worth it knowing bambu has less control over my printer.

lastly, i'm sure you guys are all rich af, so i would suggest getting a good printer instead of some no-name crappy one off amazon. it's really annoying when a print fails, and not worth the cost-savings if you have to waste your time and filament to redo prints anyway.

hope this helps!
I don’t know about “rich af” but certainly well enough off that I’m comfortable spending a few hundred bucks more if it means I don’t have to deal with constantly failed prints and other headaches! My time is too valuable for that nonsense…

I agree on the privacy bit, but I run in LAN mode too and don’t notice that I’m missing anything…
On the other hand, if they are going to start making it harder to manage third party integration, I MAY look at Prusa again (but I have so many damn Bambu spools, lmao).
 
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I run in LAN mode too and don’t notice that I’m missing anything…
I think the main one is not being able to monitor your prints remotely and stopping/starting it. I got around this by just using a webcam/ home security camera to monitor

But also as you said, it’s pretty reliable so generally speaking there’s no need to actively monitor it
 

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As a 3D printer neophyte, I had asked on this thread if anyone had any printer recommendations. Not having received a response, I did some research, and tentatively settled on the X1C (which currently appears to be on backorder). But it appears to me it's been out for a while, and I did wonder if maybe a new version might be out soon.
I had planned to respond once my husband had received his new purchase and given it a test run. It only arrived yesterday and was set up this morning so I'll be able to give you a better review once it's popped out one of @cottony's inventions. Cottony - I am completely blaming you as the reason I now have one of these monsters taking up half of our home office! lol
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Thank you guys...the Bambu X1C and P1S, and Creality K2 were my tentative top 3. I was looking at packages with AMS / CFS although right now I am not sure I see the need for multi-color. Thanks also for clarity re the open source and cloud exposure issues. I guess the K2 is more recent than the other two, and I think I may wait a little longer to see if anything new comes from Bambu.

I'll be interested to in your husband's thoughts @SuperH, and either way, I expect the tray will be my first serious print when I do commit.
 
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I had planned to respond once my husband had received his new purchase and given it a test run. It only arrived yesterday and was set up this morning so I'll be able to give you a better review once it's popped out one of @cottony's inventions. Cottony - I am completely blaming you as the reason I now have one of these monsters taking up half of our home office! lol
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Beauty is in the eye of the beholder! Hopefully one day you’ll come to appreciate it haha!
 

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Yeah, the AMS is nice (for the record, I use two on the X1c I currently have), but it certainly is NOT concerned with conserving filament and multicolor prints, when you aren’t doing them with single color plates, take a LOT longer than single color. On the other hand, it’s great if you want to use a different support material (like PVA). I believe the Creality multicolor solution is a bit more conservative, but if multicolor is really your thing, consider something the multiple heads as that essentially eliminates waste and dramatically speeds things up. They’re typically a lot more expensive though…
One of the things the new Bambu printers supposedly will have is a totally revamped AMS system, purporting to be much faster, have better filament compatibility and waste less filament…
There’s always going to be something newer though…
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