[North America] - Supercharging a 2024 Macan Turbo EV (with Lectron adapter at Tesla Supercharger(

[daveo4EV]

so 3 methods to start a charging session

1. use the Porsche App and it's charging service
2. use the Tesla App
3. on V4 stations you can use the point-of-sale LCD screen and a tap to pay credit card after plugging your vehicle…

in the future Porsche has promised support for Plug&Charge - that will be slick!

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[daveo4EV]

at a V4 Supercharger _AFTER_ you've plugged in your vehicle and it's waiting for the charging session to start - you can use a "tap to pay" credit card to start the session - the screen shown below will have a "tap here to pay" instruction displayed (apologies for not having the actual screen shot) - the LCD screen is located below the holster for the charging cord…on V4 stations…

V3 stations do not have an LCD screen that I'm aware of…

 

[refazi]

The most silly thing with these Tesla charging stations is that the only 800v station in Redwood City is not open to non teslas, or at least not to Porsche...

Slso all the early superchargers (v1-v2) are not open, i know at least 3 stations that are not on the Porsche/"non tesla ev in the tesla app" so this "25000 stations in the network" is fabricated and far from being true.

 

[daveo4EV]

The most silly thing with these Tesla charging stations is that the only 800v station in Redwood City is not open to non teslas, or at least not to Porsche...

Slso all the early superchargers (v1-v2) are not open, i know at least 3 stations that are not on the Porsche/"non tesla ev in the tesla app" so this "25000 stations in the network" is fabricated and far from being true.

the 25,000 number is V3/V4 stalls open to non teslas - if you include the entire tesla network it’s north of 35,000 stalls but that is the tesla only stall count

but it is true the entire network is not open to non-tesla - mostly due to hardware limitations but also a few business policy limitations - urban and V2 stations are not CCS compatible

the porsche nav/app does not show or offer V2 or urban superchargers as an option - and the tesla app also filters these stations out of the list

As of Tesla's third-quarter 2025 report,
over 35,000Supercharger stalls were located in North America. This is more than half of the company's global total of 73,817 stalls at the time.

Key details about the Supercharger network in North America:

• Expansion: Tesla announced in June 2025 that the company had reached 70,000 global stalls, with the majority located in North America.
• United States: As of early 2025, the U.S. had nearly 30,000 Supercharger stalls, the most of any single country.
• Canada and Mexico: As of January 2025, Canada had 236 sites and Mexico had 35.
• Network growth: More than 5,000 new stalls were added in North America in 2024, with similar growth expected in 2025.
• Access: The Supercharger network is progressively opening to non-Tesla EVs in North America, with major automakers like Ford, GM, and Rivian joining in 2024. By 2025, several automakers plan to build Tesla's charging port into their vehicles.

 

[Yves]

v4 and not 800v

 

[refazi]

the 25,000 number is V3/V4 stalls open to non teslas - if you include the entire tesla network it’s north of 35,000 stalls but that is the tesla only stall count

you can use supercharger.info for the exact numbers, it cannot show it by stall numbers but the total sites number in the US is about 2850 and the number of them that are open to NACS compatible vehicles is at the low 1900s..
EA currently has over 1000 sites.

 

[dgkhn]

yes you have to drill down to he charging station you're parked at…in the Porsche app

steps are:

• launch Porsche app
• goto the Map/charging tab
• find the charging station you're at
• tap on the "map pin" for the charging station you are at
• tap on the "right arrow" in Choose Plug Type
• tap on the correct stall from the list of displayed stalls
• tap "Start Charging"

I'm sorry...I'm probably being dense, but you answered by either/or question as a "yes." My question is, where in this sequence is the step of plugging in? (I only have V3's around me, so no screen on the station).

 

[daveo4EV]

I'm sorry...I'm probably being dense, but you answered by either/or question as a "yes." My question is, where in this sequence is the step of plugging in? (I only have V3's around me, so no screen on the station).

pull in - plug in - and then being the "app process"

you can plug in anytime before you click the "start charging" button

 

[skshimer]

One other thing to keep in mind when comparing charging speeds against Electrify America is that EA uses balanced chargers almost exclusively, so the peak of 350 kW is only achievable when the stall next to you isn’t occupied, otherwise you’re sharing the output.

From my Tesla days we were always encouraged to use a seperate number charger. They were labelled 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, etc. I always assumed the peak 250kW has shared between units with the same number.

 

[daveo4EV]

From my Tesla days we were always encouraged to use a seperate number charger. They were labelled 1A, 1B, 2A, 2B, etc. I always assumed the peak 250kW has shared between units with the same number.

the answer unfortunately is "it depends" - it can be or it can be dedicated - all depends on site logistics - time of day - last car charged - local battery booster storage - etc…

at some level it's all "balanced" in that the stations all are being manned to a total "site" budget and a split load budget among "n" stations…

given that most EV's today have a taper curve - the station design assumes no one pulls peak rate for an entire session…and the extra capacity can be shifted to another EV as the longer charging EV's taper down on the curve…

I try and not obsess about charging speed unless it's below 100 kW - anything 120 kW or more is actually pretty quick and means you'll be pretty good at the 30 minute mark…

 

[cometguy]

you can use supercharger.info for the exact numbers, it cannot show it by stall numbers but the total sites number in the US is about 2850 and the number of them that are open to NACS compatible vehicles is at the low 1900s..
EA currently has over 1000 sites.

So roughly 1/3 of Tesla Supercharger stations remain closed to Porsches? I have noticed a large number of Tesla stations across the US being "Tesla only" sites. Are they all the V1/V2 sites? Or are some V3 sites also off-limits to non-Teslas?

 

[daveo4EV]

So roughly 1/3 of Tesla Supercharger stations remain closed to Porsches? I have noticed a large number of Tesla stations across the US being "Tesla only" sites. Are they all the V1/V2 sites? Or are some V3 sites also off-limits to non-Teslas?

most are V2 and Urban sitres - V2/Urban Supercharger are NOT CCS compatible - only V3/V4 sites have been upgraded to support CCS vehicles

unless Tesla "upgrades" the V2/Urban sites to support CCS they will remain in-compatible with _ALL_ CCS vehicle's - not just Porsche's…even so the sites that are open to CCS vehicles are reliable, fast, and have greater stall count than nearly all the other networks…and you can pretty assume they will function which is certainly not true for EA and other CCS networks…

I don't know the exact count - but most V3/V4 sites allow non-Tesla vehicle's - but not all - but they are a fraction

there are few if any V1 sites
V2 sites are diminishing and limited I think to 150 kW (but I could be wrong)
Urban superchargers are 72 kW superchargers and not designed/located for "road trips"

this app will allow you to easily explore the supercharger network - and filter by various critiera

at this point in time 2/3rd's of the network is V3/V4 - and no new V2 sites are being built - I don't know aobut "urban" as far as "new" sites, but again they are not located for "road trips" - they are normally in congested areas…

check out the app - it makes it easy to explore the supercharger sites - and you can even filter for non-Tesla sites - you'll see there are still a huge amount of superchargers you can use…

https://apps.apple.com/app/id1056496235

 

[daveo4EV]

you can use supercharger.info for the exact numbers, it cannot show it by stall numbers but the total sites number in the US is about 2850 and the number of them that are open to NACS compatible vehicles is at the low 1900s..
EA currently has over 1000 sites.

but the stall count for each Tesla site is much much higher - Tesla rarely does sites less than 8 stalls - where as EA does 3-6 stalls

many many tesla sites have moree than 30 stalls

1000 EA sites is about 4000 stalls
1900 Supercharger sites is at least 25,000 stalls - or more than 6x number of actual charging stalls

if you include the EA discount of 2-3 stalls being "unavilable" at each site due to incompetence - 4000 EA stalls translates to fewer than 2000 "functional" stalls at any given time…

supercharger's have a much much more reliable reputation - so 15,000 stalls is 14,750 stalls actually functional…

wake me up when EA has a functional/relaible 79 stall 250 kW site operational - here is the EA site @ Harris Ranch with 6 stalls online - and across the street is a V3 250 kW site with 79 stalls…I know which one is more likely to operational and have an available stall…

I'd rather focus on the 25,000 additional stalls we now have access to that we didn't August - rather than the 10,000 Urban/V2 stalls that were built before Prosche entered the EV market - and is still about 2x the total number of stalls EA has deployed today…

so yeah there are 10,000 stalls we can't use - it's because it's legacy hardware

and Tesla is still adding more stalls each year than the next 9 networks combined…so yeah we don't have access to the entire network - but the network we do have access to is bigger an more reliable than what we've had to suffer with up until this point…

https://www.macanevowners.com/forum...pter-at-tesla-supercharger.23505/#post-348843

 

[cometguy]

most are V2 and Urban sitres - V2/Urban Supercharger are NOT CCS compatible - only V3/V4 sites have been upgraded to support CCS vehicles

unless Tesla "upgrades" the V2/Urban sites to support CCS they will remain in-compatible with _ALL_ CCS vehicle's - not just Porsche's…even so the sites that are open to CCS vehicles are reliable, fast, and have greater stall count than nearly all the other networks…and you can pretty assume they will function which is certainly not true for EA and other CCS networks…

I don't know the exact count - but most V3/V4 sites allow non-Tesla vehicle's - but not all - but they are a fraction

there are few if any V1 sites
V2 sites are diminishing and limited I think to 150 kW (but I could be wrong)
Urban superchargers are 72 kW superchargers and not designed/located for "road trips"

this app will allow you to easily explore the supercharger network - and filter by various critiera

at this point in time 2/3rd's of the network is V3/V4 - and no new V2 sites are being built - I don't know aobut "urban" as far as "new" sites, but again they are not located for "road trips" - they are normally in congested areas…

check out the app - it makes it easy to explore the supercharger sites - and you can even filter for non-Tesla sites - you'll see there are still a huge amount of superchargers you can use…

https://apps.apple.com/app/id1056496235

Thanks. The reason that I wrote what I did is that I've been checking lots of routes that I travel on road trips where I couldn't formerly use Tesla Superchargers (prior to this September), and I have found that there are a lot of sites that still say "Tesla-only" (vs. "open to non-Teslas"). And most of these "Tesla-only" sites are far from big metropolitan areas, unfortunately -- so they must all be V2 sites?

As for EA: I have traveled across 17 states since April of this year in my Taycan, and I have found EA to be very reliable -- very few chargers not working. They're really upped their game in 2025. A high percentage of EA chargers appear to be new. I've never gotten to an EA station and not been able to use a charger in 2025; occasionally in urban areas, there's a queue/line of cars waiting to charge, but 90% of the time at EA, I have had no wait to charge in 2025. EA tends to be among the most expensive to use, of course, but their plug-and-charge for our Porsches is so very easy that I give preference to EA when on road trips just for that reason (not having to use an app or RFID cards or credit cards). Have you used EA in the past half-year or so?

 

[daveo4EV]

Thanks. The reason that I wrote what I did is that I've been checking lots of routes that I travel on road trips where I couldn't formerly use Tesla Superchargers (prior to this September), and I have found that there are a lot of sites that still say "Tesla-only" (vs. "open to non-Teslas"). And most of these "Tesla-only" sites are far from big metropolitan areas, unfortunately -- so they must all be V2 sites?

As for EA: I have traveled across 17 states since April of this year in my Taycan, and I have found EA to be very reliable -- very few chargers not working. They're really upped their game in 2025. A high percentage of EA chargers appear to be new. I've never gotten to an EA station and not been able to use a charger in 2025; occasionally in urban areas, there's a queue/line of cars waiting to charge, but 90% of the time at EA, I have had no wait to charge in 2025. EA tends to be among the most expensive to use, of course, but their plug-and-charge for our Porsches is so very easy that I give preference to EA when on road trips just for that reason (not having to use an app or RFID cards or credit cards). Have you used EA in the past half-year or so?

I'll just leave this here…

https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...rcharger-experience-report.31132/#post-472398

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