Charging Help!

[BruceS2]

Newbie question. Since this is my first EV, I'm pretty clueless on using the charging networks. My impression so far is the public charging network is total mess and figuring out how to use it with my car is near impossible. Had the car for all of 4 days and have tested a number of chargers...mostly with poor luck. I took a 150 mi. trip down the coast and ended up going to nearest Porsche dealer and get a fast charge there...that worked great of course!

Questions:
1. We are supposed to get 1 year of free charging. When I arrive at a charger, how do I log into it without a credit card and then not get billed?
2. I have the Porsche app and the Chargepoint app. Both don't have any functions related to this that I can find. Am I missing something?
3. Is there something I have to setup in the car's system??

Thanks for any clues,

Happy Thanksgiving all

 

[daveo4EV]

the Porsche app via the map feature is how to start charging at EA sites via your included 1 year - find tap the map icon at the bottom on porsche app screen - then find the charger you're at and drill down into the charging site listing and start the charge via the app

or plug&charge should work and will bill your Porsche charging service contract which for year 1 is "included/free"

if you do not start the charge via your porsche app or plug&charge you'll pay for the charge yourself.

owning an Ev the best way to fill the car is via at home charging overnight in your garage - using public charging for all your charging needs is sub-optimal and costly and time consuming -o if you can invest is a good home charging scenario and then you will use public charging very very rarely and you'll be much happier.

 

[daveo4EV]

see pic below

map icon (2nd from the left at the bottom of the app)
charging - middle button
select teh charger your at and start tapping on the charger and eventually the stall you're plugging into

best solution however is get plug&charge working and you only need to use the app if plug&charge doesn't work.

starting the charging session via the porsche app is how you get the "included/free" charging.

 

[daveo4EV]

owning an EV with out home charging is possible - but honestly really really sub-optimal - public charging is like eating out - it's way more expensive than home

EV's are more hassle than ICE vehicle's if you do not have home charging - driving an EV like an ICE car and filling it up all the time is not their best use case.

I only use public charging when Im away from home and try to do all/most of my charging overnight in my garage.

 

[BruceS2]

Thanks! That all makes sense...seems difficult to find the charger stall you are at...I'll test it.

Yes, charging at home is the plan. I had planned to order my car and then have time set this up but ended up get the car off the lot. So have car, no charger. I'll get something goin soon I hope.

 

[daveo4EV]

Thanks! That all makes sense...seems difficult to find the charger stall you are at...I'll test it.

Yes, charging at home is the plan. I had planned to order my car and then have time set this up but ended up get the car off the lot. So have car, no charger. I'll get something goin soon I hope.

find the charger via the map in the porsche app - and start the charging session from there ;-)

that bills your "porsche charging service" account - which needs to be setup and have a credit card on file - this is how you access free/included charging and eventually when it's no longer free your negotiated discount rate for charging sessions - charging sessions started from "outside" the app are billed at normal retail rates…but will still function

it's really really worth it to work to get plug&Charge working - because then you pull up and just plug&in and always get the favorable charge session rate with out doing anything other than plugging in your vehicle…

 

[krissrock]

there's video on YT with the whole process. take a search there as well.

 

[shawn]

Thanks! That all makes sense...seems difficult to find the charger stall you are at...I'll test it.

Yes, charging at home is the plan. I had planned to order my car and then have time set this up but ended up get the car off the lot. So have car, no charger. I'll get something goin soon I hope.

Hi so here is how I set up my garage charger. I just had an electrician install a 220v dryer plug and I always use the charger that came with the car ( I did not buy a wall box or additional charger). He charged me $250 and that was it. Easy and inexpensive.

 

[daveo4EV]

Hi so here is how I set up my garage charger. I just had an electrician install a 220v dryer plug and I always use the charger that came with the car ( I did not buy a wall box or additional charger). He charged me $250 and that was it. Easy and inexpensive.

50 amp or 30 amp and what power supply cable are you using on your PUC?

 

[shawn]

50 amp or 30 amp and what power supply cable are you using on your PUC?

50 amp and I used the 1450 plug that came with the charger so your electrician will install the correct dryer outlet (I.e a 1450 outlet) and did not need any other cables.

 

[daveo4EV]

50 amp and I used the 1450 plug that came with the charger so your electrician will install the correct dryer outlet (I.e a 1450 outlet) and did not need any other cables.

perfect - Hubble NEMA 14-50 outlet?

 

[shawn]

perfect - Hubble NEMA 14-50 outlet?

Yes indeed. I just showed the electrician the 14-50 plug and off he went. I actually have two of these in my garage …long story but I have two EVs but I only charge one at a time although I suppose I could as they are on separate circuits.

 

[daveo4EV]

Yes indeed. I just showed the electrician the 14-50 plug and off he went.

this setup will serve you well...

 

[daveo4EV]

and since this thread has eye balls on it -

here is the Porsche recommendation/requirements for their EVSE installed in a North American residence - @shawn's setup is a canonical example of these recommendations…

below is Porsche's document for installation - you should share with your electrician for your install - the key requirement is the Hubble commerical grade NEMA socket…the Hubble sockets industrial/commercial grade are best practice for _ANY_ North American NEMA 14-50/6-50 EVSE install…cheap Home Depot/lowes $12 Leviton NEMA sockets should be avoided at all costs…

https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2022/MC-10222530-0001.pdf
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...-related-porsche-ntsb-article-analysis.13902/

 

[daveo4EV]

good read for people installing their first EVSE…

https://www.macanevowners.com/forum...-50-vs-6-50-new-ev-owner-garage-setup….16974/
https://www.taycanforum.com/forum/t...age…for-those-that-wish-to-over-do-it-….2343/

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