credit where credit is due…Porsche nailed this…

[daveo4EV]

well the whole get in a drive and get out and leave experience is simply 100% sorted with the Macan…

• walk up to car
• open door
• get in
• buckle up
• shift in to drive/reverse
• hit the go pedal and drive

• come home
• park
• hit the park button
• unbuckle
• get out of the car
• walk away and hear it "chirp" behind you as it locks the doors

really, honestly, 100% Porsche has this nailed - and I've missed this from my Tesla's, but now Porsche has complete parity - I love this feature!

small win's for great customer satisfaction.

gotta give it to Porsche - it's nailed! sealed! delivered! and exactly the way I want it.

that is all.

 

[adamjay79]

Would be "nailed" if your phone was a key. My only gripe.

 

[daveo4EV]

Would be "nailed" if your phone was a key. My only gripe.

finges crossed …maybe in 2025 with "digital key" support - my fear is not that we won't get it - but that it won't be "fully sorted"…

so for now I"ll take "the win" that I only need my FOB in my pocket -and there is a minimum number of steps to get the car working or parked…but yeah phone would be better.

 

[PanameraFrank]

Unsurprisingly it turns out I'm an old dumb dummy. Don't mind me.

 

[daveo4EV]

I'll take a physical key all day long. What if my phone dies? What if the app doesn't work? What if it just decides not to lock when I walk away?

• phones dies? - NFC works with phone battery dead - you can still open your car and start it and then charge your phone
  • but if the phone is "dead battery" then you'll have to take it out of your pocket and present to the door handle reader while pressing the power button to "wakeup NFC radios" - it's less than ideal but functional
• what if the app doesn't work - it's only app based to set it up - once it's configured the app is no longer involved it's not app based
  • same as plug&charge - need the app the car and the internet to get it all setup - but once your car is "provisioned" - plug&charge will work independently of your phone/porsche login/app…
• what if it decides not to lock - the car does the locking when the FOB goes out of range - a phone is no different than a FOB in this case - then the car would also fail with a FOB

properly done phone-as-key has no more pitfalls than a FOB and works just as well…but is one less device/item you have to carry with you.

phone as a key is _NOT_ using the internet and an app to open/start your car - it turns the phone into a secure FOB - and if it doesn't work nether would a FOB

 

[PanameraFrank]

FINE @daveo4EV I'm a big old dumb dummy.

 

[daveo4EV]

FINE @daveo4EV I'm a big old dumb dummy.

that was not the goal - I would never want to disparage a fellow forum member - I'm just pointing out that a phone these days is perfectly capable but being at least as dumb as 20 year old FOB technology…but not all phone-as-key-implementations are "done properly"

according to the lucid forums people have more problems with the Lucid FOB than they do with the phone-as-key - cause apparently the FOB drains it's batteries in about 18-36 hours in some circumstances - one owner carry's extra FOB batteries in his pocket with his FOB so he can always open his Lucid

this stuff is hard to get right and it's not always forward progress until you dig into the details and get them all right - I'm hoping _IF_ we get digital keys that Porsche "does it right" - the specs/standards are there…now we'll have to wait and see if Porsche meets the "standards" when/if they release their digital key tech - if they do a phone will effectively "be" a FOB - with all the exact same pros/cons of a FOB - if Porsche doesn't meet the standard - then your feedback will be 100% spot on…

we have to wait and see what Posche does (if anything) in this space.

 

[daveo4EV]

FINE @daveo4EV I'm a big old dumb dummy.

lunch on me if Porsche doesn't do the full implementation and has "pitfalls"…I'm betting they will have pitfalls - but it doesn't have to be that way - the question is how much will Porsche "embrace' the standard - if the full standard is delivered your phone should be no worse than FOB - if they fall short it could have pitfalls you won't have with a real FOB…

 

[PanameraFrank]

Don't mind my sarcasm, I appreciate you correcting me. I always assumed it required a powered on phone and a backup if your phone died.

My Rivian is dicey about when it detects my phone, sometimes I have to whack it against the door handle a few times as I scream in anger.

 

[alvaro]

PRO TIP: You don't have to actually put your car in "PARK" in the driveway. If you are stopped and pull your door level (for some reason it's 2 stage, maybe this is why) it shifts to PARK anyways.

I can't wait for phone-as-a-key. My BMW X6M has it, very practical.

 

[PrudentOcean]

• what if it decides not to lock - the car does the locking when the FOB goes out of range - a phone is no different than a FOB in this case - then the car would also fail with a FOB

If the phone battery is dead you will have to lock the car manually by touching the door handle, since detecting that the phone goes out of range won’t work.

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