Final advice on final 4S build almost locked down PTKVFXK7

[Adrian B]

Good plan.

Pretty sure it won't be much stiffer (people over assume too much) and if anything more compliant and just feel properly sorted.

Remember also the Ackerman Effect. Present on most Porsches, more pronounced on larger rims and yes will be annoying on 22" rims. If not familiar then this is what you experience when low speed manoeuvring in wet and cold conditions - tyre skipping.

Thanks for your help and advice

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[Adrian B]

Good plan.

Pretty sure it won't be much stiffer (people over assume too much) and if anything more compliant and just feel properly sorted.

Remember also the Ackerman Effect. Present on most Porsches, more pronounced on larger rims and yes will be annoying on 22" rims. If not familiar then this is what you experience when low speed manoeuvring in wet and cold conditions - tyre skipping.

Interesting about the Ackerman effect as I’d never heard of it - now I understand what was happening on my Panamera on those 22” on full lock at low speeds on a cold morning. I often wondered what the “slipping” was. Didn’t bother too much and less so now I know what it is!! Thanks

 

[Wivenhoe]

I have a 4S but with only 20” wheels - like you, I was looking towards the comfort end of the spectrum. It came with Bridgestones which I found really ‘hard’ as being more a performance tyre - I wasn’t buying the Macan purely for performance. I swapped to Pirelli Scorpion MS Allseason‘s (mild UK winters). They made an appreciable difference to the ‘ride’ so I think the tyres may make as much difference as the wheel size.

I hope you enjoy your Macan as much as you hope to.

 

[Adrian B]

I have a 4S but with only 20” wheels - like you, I was looking towards the comfort end of the spectrum. It came with Bridgestones which I found really ‘hard’ as being more a performance tyre - I wasn’t buying the Macan purely for performance. I swapped to Pirelli Scorpion MS Allseason‘s (mild UK winters). They made an appreciable difference to the ‘ride’ so I think the tyres may make as much difference as the wheel size.

I hope you enjoy your Macan as much as you hope to.

Good to know. Did you go for the extra Air Suspension option? Are the supplied tires runflats as know they don’t help? Had you tested a car with 22s to compare with the 20s? Thanks in advance

 

[Wivenhoe]

Yes I have air suspension. The Bridgestones are not run flats, allegedly they were designed for the Macan EV (?). No, I didn’t try the 22” as I was quite happy with the look of the 20”, increased range and chance they would be more ‘comfortable’ than the 22” (other may well disagree). You found the 911 a hard ride - any chance it had Bridgestones fitted ?

The major difference for me is the noise difference. The Pirelli’s are much quieter than the Bridgestones - I have acoustic glass.

It seems to me the Bridgestones are designed using a performance criteria whereas the Pirelli for a more quieter and comfortable ride - depending on what you want to use your SUV for.

 

[MMR]

For the 22” Spyder wheels specifically (not sure if it translates across the others):

• Pirelli
  → Generally scored best for noise / comfort
  → Softer compound + sidewall tuning = quieter ride, especially noticeable on coarse UK roads
• Goodyear
  → Typically comes out best on rolling resistance
  → That translates to being more economical (slightly better EV efficiency)
  → A touch firmer, so not quite as hushed as the Pirellis

 

[daveo4EV]

while I like the "look" of the sports design kit - I'm not a fan of the "chin/front splitter" it adds to the front of my 2024 Macan EV Turbo - this chin also lowers the clearance of various road-transition entrys w/dip and parking with stops/curbs…

if I had it to do over again I would check the following box…

also having lived with a Macan 4 EV loaner w/22" wheel options and my 2024 Macan Turbo EV with 20" wheel options - I'm all in on the smaller wheels for better range and comfort…

My wife and I prefer the 14 way seats vs. the 18 way seats and we checked the massage options

I always prioritize "functional options" like RWS or Torque vectoring vs. "cosmetic options" like color of trim or various carbon fibre substitutions…

Personally love the driver assist no reason not to get it IMHO

 

[daveo4EV]

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20" wheels for range and max-comfort
passenger display - cause it's better than staring at blank plastic-trim
"offroad" kit because the front splitter hits things in normal road driving parking lot situations
massage/vent options for the seat
driver assist
torque vectoring

but that's my car - not YOUR car

your build is just fine! but those are my considerations.

 

[W1NGE]

Yes I have air suspension. The Bridgestones are not run flats, allegedly they were designed for the Macan EV (?). No, I didn’t try the 22” as I was quite happy with the look of the 20”, increased range and chance they would be more ‘comfortable’ than the 22” (other may well disagree). You found the 911 a hard ride - any chance it had Bridgestones fitted ?

The major difference for me is the noise difference. The Pirelli’s are much quieter than the Bridgestones - I have acoustic glass.

It seems to me the Bridgestones are designed using a performance criteria whereas the Pirelli for a more quieter and comfortable ride - depending on what you want to use your SUV for.

In UK 992s come with summer PZeros (standard on my 992 with Carrera Exclusive Design 20/21).

992s don't have much sound proofing and offer a more aural experience in general and highly road surface dependant. Acoustic glass won't help in this regard as much of the tyre roar rises through the footwells.

I personally think Michelin are better and last longer.

 

[daveo4EV]

_THIS_ option is worth considering - but it comes with a whole bunch of unrelated changes…

Porsche does itself a "disservice" here using the words "terrain" and approach angle - all legit off road terms, and a correct description…

I've never had my 2024 Macan EV Turbo in any "terrian" - but I do drive normal streets, driveways, and curb entrances - my front splitter introduces itself to many of these normal and everyday items much more often that I like…the cars front splitter often scraps the ground if there is simply a medium or large "dip" in the road - hardly "offroad" conditions…

if I was to build a new Macan EV this design option would be part of that build - unfortunately it causes other cosmetic changes on the sides, fenders and rear of the vehicle that you may or may not want…

I'm not saying this a _MUST_ do, but I'm simply noting it so anyone building a Macan EV goes in "eyes open" - this is not just an "offroad" thing - it's a normal everyday front bumper cleareance thing…

in my world the "more demanding terrain" is a parking lot entrance that has a huge dip as you transition from the road to the parking lot - or the gas station entrance in Capitola - also with a large dip where the front of the car "meets" the parking lot entrance - what is an EV doing goign to a gas station? Well it has my favorite "no touch" car wash so I can keep my Macan EV looking tip-top…

this is not just for "offroad" - it's for any undulation's you will encounter in the everyday world - or perhaps that curb at the front of the parking stall that is a bit taller than you'd like…

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