Macan4 battery consumption and charging

[RG1572]

I am new to the Porsche family and got my Macan 4 this week. Very excited.

Last night I set the target charge to 80% and after reaching the target, the myporsche app it’s showing 248 miles.

With the single 80% target charge, is it possible to get 300+ miles. Are there any recommendations?

 

[Jawohl]

The distance is an estimate based on how much "juice" you have in the battery (in your case 80%), how you drive (lead foot v. light foot), weather conditions etc.
It is possible to get 300 miles, fully charged.
I suggest that you read guides posted by @dave4EV, in the charging section:
https://www.macanevowners.com/forum/forums/charging-batteries-v2g-v2h-12v-battery.7/

 

[tmrqs]

I am new to the Porsche family and got my Macan 4 this week. Very excited.

Last night I set the target charge to 80% and after reaching the target, the myporsche app it’s showing 248 miles.

With the single 80% target charge, is it possible to get 300+ miles. Are there any recommendations?

300+ miles with 80% battery charge is not possible unless it involves the car being at the top of a mountain (in the Summer) and driving peacefully downhill for 40+ miles.

300+ miles can be relatively easily achieved in the Summer time if you don’t speed nor drive aggressively - almost hypermiling the car.

 

[Fadz]

My macan 4 day one, was 311 miles with fully charged.

 

[Barry41561]

300+ miles with 80% battery charge is not possible unless it involves the car being at the top of a mountain (in the Summer) and driving peacefully downhill for 40+ miles.

300+ miles can be relatively easily achieved in the Summer time if you don’t speed nor drive aggressively - almost hypermiling the car.

So I'm very curious as to how my 4S (currently in Phase 3 of production) does here in Southern California. I've been driving a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV Redline - I now have 22,000 miles on it since new - and I'm averaging 4.3 miles / kWh, with an average speed of 29.8 MPH.

I'm NOT expecting 4.3 miles / kWh, but -- I'll be disappointed if I'm below 3.3 miles / kWh (I've ordered the 20' wheels with summer tires).

 

[tmrqs]

So I'm very curious as to how my 4S (currently in Phase 3 of production) does here in Southern California. I've been driving a 2023 Chevy Bolt EUV Redline - I now have 22,000 miles on it since new - and I'm averaging 4.3 miles / kWh, with an average speed of 29.8 MPH.

I'm NOT expecting 4.3 miles / kWh, but -- I'll be disappointed if I'm below 3.3 miles / kWh (I've ordered the 20' wheels with summer tires).

Jokes aside, I did 3.3mi/kWh on my very first trip with the car. The numbers went down since, both because of the lower temperatures and shorter distances (and let’s be honest, gunning it).

Let us know what you get on your end!

 

[bbmertz]

I’m curious how the 4S consumption and range compares with the Turbo. According to the EPA, they should be the same. Unfortunately it will be difficult to get an apples-to-apples comparison since we all have different configurations, driving styles, and climate conditions. I take delivery of my 4S on 20” S wheels on Thursday and will send periodic updates on the main consumption thread.

Happy Holidays to everyone on this forum! I appreciate all the useful information posted during the past year as well as the very helpful, non-argumentative nature of the posts which is somewhat unique to this forum.

 

[daveo4EV]

the miles on the odometer are referred to as the "guess-o-meter" - they are heavily influenced by recent driving style and recent past historical consumption

a more accurate estimate is the navigation destination in the PCM navigation - that takes into account speed, elevation changes, and distance - but not temperature

the guess-o-meter should not be used to assess your battery or how many miles you can drive - but rather consider an order of magnitude as to how much you can drive…

the guess-o-meter if wrong most of the time - because it has no idea if you're going to be driving uphill for example…or if you're goign to be driving 80 mph…

based on my 3,600'ish miles in the past month on my 2024 Macan Turbo EV the Macan Turbo is anywhere from a 2.5 mile/kWh to 3.8 mile/kWh EV for normal driving conditions at 80% battery SOC that's a maximum range of 190 - 288 miles of driving range depending on circumstances…take another 10% off of those numbers because most of the time you won't/can't drive to 0%

actual range doesn't matter most days because you have more range than you need and you'll get home and charge overnight again

hte only time I care about range is when I'm road tripping - and then I ignore the guess-o-meter and use the PCM navigation to see the car's very accurate estimate for battery % @ destination - if I'm going on a longer day trip - I might use the navigation again to get battery % @ destination to gauge if I'm going to need to charge to get back home…

but mostly you can ignore the guess-o-meter and just drive the car - typical usage means at 80% you have more than enough for your daily duties…so it honestly doesn't matter.

as you learn the car you'll become very very comfortable with it and gain confidence…

EV's are scary consistent for any given drive - there was one drive from my home in San Jose to my family's beach house in Santa Cruz area - over the years I learned that drive took 14% battery - kinda no matter what - honestly I couldn't get it to take much more, and was unable to get it to take much less - that 14% consumption number was so consistent that one day I got in the car to go to santa cruz and I had only 22% battery - but having done hte drive soooooo many time I knew it was a 14% drive - so I did the drive - arrived with 8% and plugged into charge…

ignore the guess-o-meter - use the navigation to estimate actual distance - always use common sense and relax - it's unlikely you need "full range" for 350 day's of the year - for the other 15 days of the year use the planning tools/apps to make informed choices/plans…

 

[Barry41561]

Jokes aside, I did 3.3mi/kWh on my very first trip with the car. The numbers went down since, both because of the lower temperatures and shorter distances (and let’s be honest, gunning it).

Let us know what you get on your end!

No jokes - I promise!

BTW - I've purchased the car from Ray Catena in NJ (I see you're from my home state of NJ). Planning on picking it up - and driving it down to Florida.

 

[prime]

I’m curious how the 4S consumption and range compares with the Turbo. According to the EPA, they should be the same. Unfortunately it will be difficult to get an apples-to-apples comparison since we all have different configurations, driving styles, and climate conditions. I take delivery of my 4S on 20” S wheels on Thursday and will send periodic updates on the main consumption thread.

Happy Holidays to everyone on this forum! I appreciate all the useful information posted during the past year as well as the very helpful, non-argumentative nature of the posts which is somewhat unique to this forum.

This is one of the reasons (among a few others) I chose the turbo. At no range loss based on EPA figures went for more power.

 

[daveo4EV]

the miles on the odometer are referred to as the "guess-o-meter" - they are heavily influenced by recent driving style and recent past historical consumption

a more accurate estimate is the navigation destination in the PCM navigation - that takes into account speed, elevation changes, and distance - but not temperature

the guess-o-meter should not be used to assess your battery or how many miles you can drive - but rather consider an order of magnitude as to how much you can drive…

the guess-o-meter if wrong most of the time - because it has no idea if you're going to be driving uphill for example…or if you're goign to be driving 80 mph…

based on my 3,600'ish miles in the past month on my 2024 Macan Turbo EV the Macan Turbo is anywhere from a 2.5 mile/kWh to 3.8 mile/kWh EV for normal driving conditions at 80% battery SOC that's a maximum range of 190 - 288 miles of driving range depending on circumstances…take another 10% off of those numbers because most of the time you won't/can't drive to 0%

actual range doesn't matter most days because you have more range than you need and you'll get home and charge overnight again

hte only time I care about range is when I'm road tripping - and then I ignore the guess-o-meter and use the PCM navigation to see the car's very accurate estimate for battery % @ destination - if I'm going on a longer day trip - I might use the navigation again to get battery % @ destination to gauge if I'm going to need to charge to get back home…

but mostly you can ignore the guess-o-meter and just drive the car - typical usage means at 80% you have more than enough for your daily duties…so it honestly doesn't matter.

as you learn the car you'll become very very comfortable with it and gain confidence…

EV's are scary consistent for any given drive - there was one drive from my home in San Jose to my family's beach house in Santa Cruz area - over the years I learned that drive took 14% battery - kinda no matter what - honestly I couldn't get it to take much more, and was unable to get it to take much less - that 14% consumption number was so consistent that one day I got in the car to go to santa cruz and I had only 22% battery - but having done hte drive soooooo many time I knew it was a 14% drive - so I did the drive - arrived with 8% and plugged into charge…

ignore the guess-o-meter - use the navigation to estimate actual distance - always use common sense and relax - it's unlikely you need "full range" for 350 day's of the year - for the other 15 days of the year use the planning tools/apps to make informed choices/plans…

honestly I'd love to see the guess-o-meter "banned" - or change the display to one of 3 states:

• enough
• getting low but you're good - 35% or lower
• need to charge soon - 15% or lower

most of the time normal daily usage most people would never see the bottom two choices…

 

[Barry41561]

This is one of the reasons (among a few others) I chose the turbo. At no range loss based on EPA figures went for more power.

I'm looking forward to the usual YouTube people doing their range tests for the turbo vs. 4s vs. base...I guess it's possible that the turbo & 4s will have the same range, but it's a bit odd that it would be so.
We shall see!

 

[bbmertz]

This is one of the reasons (among a few others) I chose the turbo. At no range loss based on EPA figures went for more power.

Yeah, I was surprised and disappointed when it was announced that the 4S would not have any better range than the Turbo.

I opted for the 4S over the 4 since it had more horsepower and only cost me about $5K more. It was difficult for me to justify the additional $15K above the 4S to get the turbo and hope the 4S has sufficient increased acceleration over the 4.

 

[Barry41561]

Yeah, I was surprised and disappointed when it was announced that the 4S would not have any better range than the Turbo.

I opted for the 4S over the 4 since it had more horsepower and only cost me about $5K more. It was difficult for me to justify the additional $15K above the 4S to get the turbo and hope the 4S has sufficient increased acceleration over the 4.

Agree 100% - that's how I wound up with the 4S.

Waiting (impatiently) for the reviews....

 

[bbmertz]

Really looking forward to being able to provide my own reviews after I take delivery this Thursday the 26th! Too bad there aren’t any after Christmas sales on Porsches.

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