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My 2024 Macan EV Never Seems to DC Fast Charge at its Potential

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its really getting absurd!
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No.

Again, she knows how to use Tesla Service Mode and 3rd party tools to get comfortable with the state of the car.

You just seem to need to believe it is the charging network. She doesn't care about the health of the pump. Only the health of the car she is driving.
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so you're cracking open a diagnostic/engineering mode on rented Tesla's to determine if the car is "ok" during fast charging - and because you can't do that with the Porsche it's unacceptable (and using 3rd party hardware and software)

I'm done - I have no response - I'm not sure any vendor's car is good for you…

also how often is it "the car" - I've been driving EV's since 2011 - well over 250,000 EV miles - it's never been "the car"…and even if it was - what does it matter?

wow - simple wow…

stick with the Tesla - EU rules and world wide trends is cars are going to be more locked down and less open…and the german's suck at software, and the CCS network is not getting any better anytime soon…
Our Macan EV regularly posts error messages about its state that are incongruent with reality but make us wonder about its state. For example, when ACC cuts acceleration for no apparent reason. Or when the rear sensors believe we are about to hit another car in a parking lot but the car is not really close to us. Or when the forward collision light always appears when we're entering the garage.

So ... the car regularly reports phantom conditions that she needs to understand. So, yes, it is the software.
 

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one last word. the porsche user interface might be not good enough for some. but at least it did not kill anybody so far we know. thats something not every car manufacturer mentiond above can claim..
 

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Our Macan EV regularly posts error messages about its state that are incongruent with reality but make us wonder about its state. For example, when ACC cuts acceleration for no apparent reason. Or when the rear sensors believe we are about to hit another car in a parking lot but the car is not really close to us. Or when the forward collision light always appears when we're entering the garage.

So ... the car regularly reports phantom conditions that she needs to understand. So, yes, it is the software.
yeah Porsche's software sucks - that's a fact - and will never meet your wife's expectation - my Cayenne/911's/Macan/Taycan routinely reports false status and confusing issues…it's endemic to the Brand and their software and I even got Prosche to lemon one or two vehicle's over software only issues that they could not resolve

if software quality is your benchmark Porsche is not the standard to aspire to…most owners understand this and "tolerate" the software issues because they perceive value in other dimensions…they may be right or wrong but it's what they do.

the Macan and it's software will NEVER meet your wife's expectations and will continue to generate false status/errors/notifications

so beside the fact that the CCS network sucks she also hates the software - seems to me it was never the network - it's the fact that Porsche software sucks - and that's a fair assessment.

I'm at a loss for an accurate title - I don't think it was ever the charging - the Macan is just not a fit for your goals and expectations.
 
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the Macan and it's software will NEVER meet your wife's expectations and will continue to generate false status/errors/notifications
Like many of us, she adapted to live with many of the software quirks. Some people turn off ALK because they think it's dangerous. Others think ACC wanders too much in the lane for their comfort. Etc.

When the car false positives on the collision sensors, she can get out of it and check to see if she is running over something.

For her, she can't get comfortable with understanding whether the Macan's high voltage battery system is in a safe state from the software. Telling her that she is wrong for feeling this way would be silly.
 


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one last word. the porsche user interface might be not good enough for some. but at least it did not kill anybody so far we know. thats something not every car manufacturer mentiond above can claim..
Yes, we are not candidates for Tesla autopilot usage either.
 

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The OP lost me when he stated that he bought a $120K EV SUV as a sort of cheap beater…

Once that’s been stated, no further comments bear paying attention to…(IMO)
 
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The OP lost me when he stated that he bought a $120K EV SUV as a sort of cheap beater…

Once that’s been stated, no further comments bear paying attention to…(IMO)
I didn't say that.

I said we would treat a leased Tesla Model Y (a $50k car with incentives) as a cheap beater until we found a replacement of something we liked. We don't think of the Macan EV as a cheap beater and our concerns about it and the Cayenne are that we have to classify them as better than cheap beaters for them to make sense for us.
 

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In the Sacramento area have only once seen a 120 number.

The slower the charge the better it is for long term battery health. So there's that.

EV distance long travel takes longer. Expecting it not to is a pipe dream.
 

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I didn't say that.

I said we would treat a leased Tesla Model Y (a $50k car with incentives) as a cheap beater until we found a replacement of something we liked. We don't think of the Macan EV as a cheap beater and our concerns about it and the Cayenne are that we have to classify them as better than cheap beaters for them to make sense for us.

Right - you said decided NOT to buy a $50-$60K car (that you knew worked well for your use case) as a cheap beater, and then decided on a $120K car instead for the same use case, EXCEPT you really didn't research your purchase very well, by all appearances. You know what they say about fools and their money, right??

Regardless of how exactly you came to the decision, it clearly wasn't a good one for you, and expecting anyone here to try to help you justify that move is folly of the first order...
 


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Right - you said decided NOT to buy a $50-$60K car (that you knew worked well for your use case) as a cheap beater, and then decided on a $120K car instead for the same use case, EXCEPT you really didn't research your purchase very well, by all appearances. You know what they say about fools and their money, right??

Regardless of how exactly you came to the decision, it clearly wasn't a good one for you, and expecting anyone here to try to help you justify that move is folly of the first order...
Uh, no.

We didn't want to buy a Tesla because we find the seats very uncomfortable. But they're fine for running to the store. For a variety of reasons, we wanted to try an electric SUV but didn't see one that fit us well. So, a base model Y as a utility vehicle would work until we found something better.

We gambled on the Macan EV. It didn't work out as well as we had hoped, but we're not upset about it. More pre-sales research would not have helped me learn how my wife would react to it. As I said, she wanted to try it too.

I posted many positive and negative experiences about the car here for 7 months. But now we've parked it, and it's going to get a rest for a while.

EDIT: when we were looking at the base Tesla Model Y for purchase, it was less than $400 / month, all-in, taxes, etc. on a lease.
 
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Again, we disagree. The stress of not being able to understand what is happening is overwhelming for her and she doesn't want to experience it while 1000 miles away from home. It is the car.
Has she tried anxiety therapy? It helped my sister a lot. She no no longer frets about these kinds of details. It did her a world of good, perhaps you should try to resolve this annoying CCS characteristic at it source (the wife's anxiety).
 
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Has she tried anxiety therapy? It helped my sister a lot. She no no longer frets about these kinds of details. It did her a world of good, perhaps you should try to resolve this annoying CCS characteristic at it source (the wife's anxiety).
Most people who know her regularly report that she performs well and is level-headed under extreme pressure which is associated with her job. But, my guess is that you are not a woman in America.

She considers it not worth the risk to walk alone at 3 am in back alleys near NoMad in NYC. And she's willing to spend some money to avoid being far from home trying to figure out a Porsche error message about the charge port door in a Walmart parking lot. She looks at the prospect of more of that and says, "wtf am I doing with my life?"
 

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Uh, yes.

You have a $120K, 5,000 lb. paperweight because you made a bad choice.

Blaming occasionally wonky CCS charging for your lack of understanding of your own use case (or apparently your wife’s anxiety issues) is laughable. and asking anyone else to commiserate with you about that is delusional.
 

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She considers it not worth the risk to walk alone at 3 am in back alleys near NoMad in NYC. And she's willing to spend some money to avoid being far from home trying to figure out a Porsche error message about the charge port door in a Walmart parking lot
Quit insulting our intelligence.

WTH would ANYONE EVER need to charge at 3 am in a “back alley”?!?

They wouldn’t, ever, so quit with the straw men (or women).
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