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Scheduled Charging won't start automatically. Does it require Porsche Wallbox?

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I have tried Departure > Optimized charging to both Manual (fixed start and end time) and Automatic (based on charging target and departure time). But when it comes to the time that Scheduled Charging should start, the MyPorsche app will either show "charging pause" or "Initialing". I had to go to my 3rd party charger's app to manually start it. It almost feels like the car can't draw power from the charger.

Is everyone using 3rd party charger able to schedule successfully? I guess I can always enable Direct Charge and schedule a time from the charger's app. But that mean it can't use Automatic/Optimized charging where the car "knows" when to start and end charging? Any other difference I'm missing? Thank you in advance!!
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I use the schedule as the electricity rate per kw between midnight and 7am is a quarter of the normal rate. Initially I tried to use my third party charger to set the time - it never worked. I do all my charging at home via the App and not the car or charger.

Mine works fine but I did have 2 charges that failed as I didn’t follow the required order of things. In my case, I set the departure time for 7am before the car is connected and it works. The App says charging paused, then I know it will work.

It has failed when I had the car connected, optimised charging selected but no departure. Setting the departure after connection doesn’t work in my case.
 

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I have tried Departure > Optimized charging to both Manual (fixed start and end time) and Automatic (based on charging target and departure time). But when it comes to the time that Scheduled Charging should start, the MyPorsche app will either show "charging pause" or "Initialing". I had to go to my 3rd party charger's app to manually start it. It almost feels like the car can't draw power from the charger.

Is everyone using 3rd party charger able to schedule successfully? I guess I can always enable Direct Charge and schedule a time from the charger's app. But that mean it can't use Automatic/Optimized charging where the car "knows" when to start and end charging? Any other difference I'm missing? Thank you in advance!!
Direct Charge = start charging immediately and will ignore any programmatic control.

Any evse can be used BUT you just control programming via the PCM or My Porsche App and not anything else unless your utility provider can talk to the PCM directly (some can) and if so use their App.

Forum is littered with charging guidance and read the Owner’s Manual too of course.
 

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I have the Porsche wallbox, but it has nothing to do with the scheduled charge.
Optimized charging, manual, lets you choose "preferred hours."
Departure time doesn't work with the Macan (it was fine with my Taycan).
The "initiating" position is only temporary; if it persists, there's a bug.
As soon as the programming is sent to the PCM, there's first a calculation to determine whether the car will be charged at the "departure time"( checking of the power delivered by the wallbox ?)
Then there's a "charging pause" sequence.
In my case, charging starts after a variable delay, but generally too early, and the scheduled charge is reached well before the "departure time."
I think this is a bug; moreover, the instructions in the manual aren't very precise on this point.
 

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Daniel. I don’t have those issues. My departure time works - the only thing I have to be careful about is setting the charge limit so that the charge will start and finish within the cheaper rate period. To do that I have to ensure Iā€˜m not calling for more than 50kw.
 


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Daniel. I don’t have those issues. My departure time works - the only thing I have to be careful about is setting the charge limit so that the charge will start and finish within the cheaper rate period. To do that I have to ensure Iā€˜m not calling for more than 50kw.
Bob, thanks for your quick reply.
I have an appointment at my dealership this Tuesday because I no longer have any sound in the car, no accessible Bose menu, no radar beep...
The update will be installed then.
I'll be more insistent about this charging problem, which they didn't care about until now.
 

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Yeah, I now have to set mine to direct charge, even though I’ve enabled location based charging since I’ve got a regular, weekly departure set and it otherwise just waits until a few hours before the departure to start charging to ensure it’s hit 80% when I leave.
I think though I’m done with setting a recurring departure time since I can’t get the location based feature to work and I’m sure one of these days I’ll forget to enable direct charging.
Oh well, this is really the only persistently annoying issue I’ve encountered since I got my 4S in January, so it’s not that bad, really.
 

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I just program a departure time and it starts charging when it knows it will reach the level at programmed time in the App, works as advertised, though it Shows a one hour of due to daylight savings not turned on I guess (so the programmed time is correct but it shows the wrong end time in the charging window in the app)
 

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No it is not required. I use the most widely used box in our country and it works perfect!
 


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I have the Porsche wallbox, but it has nothing to do with the scheduled charge.
Optimized charging, manual, lets you choose "preferred hours."
Departure time doesn't work with the Macan (it was fine with my Taycan).
The "initiating" position is only temporary; if it persists, there's a bug.
As soon as the programming is sent to the PCM, there's first a calculation to determine whether the car will be charged at the "departure time"( checking of the power delivered by the wallbox ?)
Then there's a "charging pause" sequence.
In my case, charging starts after a variable delay, but generally too early, and the scheduled charge is reached well before the "departure time."
I think this is a bug; moreover, the instructions in the manual aren't very precise on this point.
I use a Tesla Wall Charger, scheduling in the car works good, I don’t use anything outside the scheduling in the car.

But scheduled charge is consistently reached one hour before scheduled departure time. Seems indeed like a bug.
 

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With the J1 Taycan , Porsche didn't have a very good handle on the charging process.

For example, if you set the car to leave at 6 a.m. at 85% or other value, if you didn't unplug the plug yourself before 6:30 a.m., charging would automatically restart up to 100%!
This is why you can set the Macan to automatically disconnect the plug at the end of charging!

Other bugs also caused an unwanted 100% charge. They've implemented measures to avoid this with the Macan: to exceed 80%, you have to make an effort...
 
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With the J1 Taycan , Porsche didn't have a very good handle on the charging process.

For example, if you set the car to leave at 6 a.m. at 85% or other value, if you didn't unplug the plug yourself before 6:30 a.m., charging would automatically restart up to 100%!
This is why you can set the Macan to automatically disconnect the plug at the end of charging!

Other bugs also caused an unwanted 100% charge. They've implemented measures to avoid this with the Macan: to exceed 80%, you have to make an effort...
Not if you have a daily timer set as the session would / should pause, waiting on the next timer event.
 

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Not if you have a daily timer set as the session would / should pause, waiting on the next timer event.
Maybe, but in my opinion, this logic is singular.
 
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I have the Porsche wallbox, but it has nothing to do with the scheduled charge.
Optimized charging, manual, lets you choose "preferred hours."
Departure time doesn't work with the Macan (it was fine with my Taycan).
The "initiating" position is only temporary; if it persists, there's a bug.
As soon as the programming is sent to the PCM, there's first a calculation to determine whether the car will be charged at the "departure time"( checking of the power delivered by the wallbox ?)
Then there's a "charging pause" sequence.
In my case, charging starts after a variable delay, but generally too early, and the scheduled charge is reached well before the "departure time."
I think this is a bug; moreover, the instructions in the manual aren't very precise on this point.
Isn't this how it should work? Charging generates a lot of heat and if the ambient temp is also high, your battery can get well above optimal temp for driving. That's why if you depart time allows, it should try to finish charging well before that to allow it to cooldown.

It seems my issue is with the charger. The car/app wants to start charging at the time it thinks appropriate that why it shows Initialing but it can't draw power from the charger unless I manually tell the charger to start. I might just have to use my charger's schedule to charge within a specific time now (no more Automatic optimize in myPorsche app).
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