What does your Future hold with the Macan

[USMA81]

Initial report on Rivian R2 is glowing. This actually is good news for Porsche, as they invested in Rivian to partner on software.

It is certain that the current Macan will be outdated sooner or later, maybe sooner. Porsche certainly will be pressed to remain competitive in this SUV EV market.

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[DTaxman]

It would be a world record if my unknown new car is worst than a dangerous, not reliable, obsolete and very expensive medium tech brand new macan EV!
My particular macan turbo is very particular

I'm not going to debate your personal experience with the vehicle as it seems terrible. Feels like perhaps they have had a higher rate of lemons on the Macan EV than usual.

However, just curious why you say it is "obsolete" at this point? It might just be that I'm not looking for a lot of software bells and whistles, but it does pretty much everything I need it to do.... along with the fabulous diving dynamics. I'm a heavy Carplay user so I rarely dig deep into the porsche system on a daily basis. The Carplay integration is the best I've expeienced on any vehicle with a seemless transition of maps and functionality between the center screen and the diver screen. I get in the car, sit down and within probably 5 seconds carplay is up and running wirelessly.

 

[byebye]

However, just curious why you say it is "obsolete" at this point? It might just be that I'm not looking for a lot of software bells and whistles, but it does pretty much everything I need it to do....

Obsolete is a personal thought.
'To me, a one year old connected object, even if it's a car, that is not able to be updated on a regular basis is obsolete.
My point is NOT OTA or real new features, but just improvements and adjustments of existing ones to provide customer with polished experience. UI, UX, stability, cyber, bug fixes, new user parameters in existing features, optimizations of abnormal and non optimal behaviors ; that's all about a serious provider of connected objects is supposed to provide. And it's the minimum to say the least. Standard expectations nowadays are new software only features...

Porsche doesn't provide that type of improvements with our Macans EV, it's not a technical limitation , it's a choice they've made for some (marketing, commercial , segmentation or whatever) reasons.
Basically, Porsche says customers that the infotainment of the car will be exactly the same for the several years of ownership, because the first version of the software was so perfect (it's not) that they don't need to improve it at all.

(I don't like software bells, I have too many related with the circle of death lol)

 

[DTaxman]

Obsolete is a personal thought.
'To me, a one year old connected object, even if it's a car, that is not able to be updated on a regular basis is obsolete.
My point is NOT OTA or real new features, but just improvements and adjustments of existing ones to provide customer with polished experience. UI, UX, stability, cyber, bug fixes, new user parameters in existing features, optimizations of abnormal and non optimal behaviors ; that's all about a serious provider of connected objects is supposed to provide. And it's the minimum to say the least. Standard expectations nowadays are new software only features...

Porsche doesn't provide that type of improvements with our Macans EV, it's not a technical limitation , it's a choice they've made for some (marketing, commercial , segmentation or whatever) reasons.
Basically, Porsche says customers that the infotainment of the car will be exactly the same for the several years of ownership, because the first version of the software was so perfect (it's not) that they don't need to improve it at all.

(I don't like software bells, I have too many related with the circle of death lol)

That's totally fair. I haven't had any catastrophic software issues (circle of death....), but have had annoyances.

I guess maybe I was just coming at it from the lens of a more traditional car ownership experience. Car ownership and expectations around feature updates and improvements are a new reality in the market. It's the smartphone(ification) of the car buying experience. Feels similar in sentiment to the lease vs. buy debates now. I'm only 50, but "back in my day" I bought a car and didn't worry so much about depreciation rate because I knew I would be driving it for the next 10 years plus. Rate of change also was not great with respect to technology, performance improvements, etc. Things incrementally got better in cars in the 90's and early 2000's, but nothing that made me feel like I was totally missing out by not "upgrading". Now I'm made to feel like an idiot for buying an EV outright because it will apparently be no better than a glorified paperweight in 3 years.

Again, not trying to attack you (I get your personal frustration with the experience), but I'm trying really hard to not fall into the upgrade trap with this vehicle. I love to drive it. Still does everything I need it to do, and with carplay I get updates to my UI experience through IOS.

 

[byebye]

@DTaxman no problem at all, I totally understand your POV, and I find it heartening to see that the vast majority of Macan EV owners are satisfied rather than dissatisfied with this expensive toy

bad luck, I’m not in that team!

Obviously, cars are cars and their first purpose is to be driven with confidence, not necessarily acting like a smartphone

 

[Petzi]

@DTaxman no problem at all, I totally understand your POV, and I find it heartening to see that the vast majority of Macan EV owners are satisfied rather than dissatisfied with this expensive toy

bad luck, I’m not in that team!

Obviously, cars are cars and their first purpose is to be driven with confidence, not necessarily acting like a smartphone

byebye tells an other story in every thread. once he gave it back „but only with help from his lawyers“ here he posts like he still has it. this is going like this for one year now.

 

[byebye]

byebye tells an other story in every thread. once he gave it back „but only with help from his lawyers“ here he posts like he still has it. this is going like this for one year now.

Pfff…

 

[Petzi]

@byebye: i am the one saying „pff“.

How is it possible to keep telling the same stories for years? That’s just crazy. If I don’t like a car—or whatever—or if I’ve had bad luck with something that doesn’t work, I just return it and buy something else. And I wrote you something similar a year ago.

And it’s not true that Porsche is uncooperative. Unless maybe they think they’re dealing with a querulous person?

you spend so much time to discredit porsche. it is not possible to post anything here, without you telling your sad story in response. don't you get ever tired of being the one loser that was not able to get his car fixed under warranty?

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