E-Shift on 2027 Macan?

[aks]

Indeed. I knew as soon as we drove the GTS away from the dealer (Porsch Hatfield) that it was firmer in normal mode. I tried some other modes, i.e. offroad, to see if that softened anything, but I didn't notice any more softness.

To confirm my thoughts, we went straight out in a 4S, and the subtle change in normal mode was noticable - a slightly more dampened feeling when hitting crappy road surfaces.

In the GTS, it felt like we had more thuds, a sharper impact to any crap road surfaces, in fact generally quite similar to my M5 in comfort setting on adaptive suspension. Not uncomfortable or unstable, but just a bit firmer. This will certainly suit a lot a drivers.

Both the 4S and the GTS had 22" spider wheels and air suspension.

For the Macan, we deliberately wanted a 'softer' ride (than the M5), as we will use it daily. We have now had the car for 2 weeks, covered ~900 miles, and so far very pleased with it overall, including the ride and performance for the UK roads.

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[Petzi]

I can’t get interested in the gimmicky e-shift while people keep reporting bricked cars due to mysterious software issues. I want quality, reliability, more range. MY28 better pull a magic rabbit out of Porsche’s hat. The bmw i3 has 250km more range than a macan gts for almost a third of the price. Does the Porsche drive better? Sure. Would I buy one over the i3. No!

what are you talking about? „250km more range“? i get easy 420 km from my macan turbo on the highway. just last week I drove with 19.4 consumption for a 370km trip at 119kmh. you should also (try) to understand that consumption is not measured in one trip. you may have headwind, it might be colder or warmer aso. plus consumption does only matter before you buy a modern electric car. after two to three months you dont even think about range anymore. a car like porsche, bmw, mercedes tells you when and where to recharge, you do it and go on driving as fast as possible and permited (or a little faster)

 

[krissrock]

i3 is also a sedan...not an SUV/CUV...so it SHOULD get more range.
that aside...BMW's are gawd awful looking these days. Especially the interiors.

 

[Dragon Tourniquet]

plus consumption does only matter before you buy a modern electric car. after two to three months you dont even think about range anymore. a car like porsche, bmw, mercedes tells you when and where to recharge, you do it and go on driving as fast as possible and permited (or a little faster)

This point isn't completely true in the US. I recently did a trip from Las Vegas, NV to Reno, NV. The built-in trip planner had set a route where I would arrive at the second charging stop with 15% battery, to a place with a single 50kw charger that was not part of any charging network (and therefore no way to know in advance if it was working or occupied), and at least 50 miles from any other DC charger. I knew that because I had checked the trip in advance on PlugShare and ABRP, and knew that charger also happened to be less than reliable, so I manually changed the route to go a different (longer) way.

The trip was doable, but if I had gone the way Porsche/Here suggested I could have easily been stranded. More range would have made that less of an issue (and depending on how much more range, it could have been a complete non-issue).

To the original topic of this thread though, if Porsche does add the e-Shift stuff to future cars, I hope it is optional and can be permanently disabled. While some may feel it makes the car more engaging it, the fake shifts are removing some acceleration. When I hit the go pedal I want the car to go, not pretend to shift and sort of go.

 

[Petzi]

This point isn't completely true in the US. I recently did a trip from Las Vegas, NV to Reno, NV. The built-in trip planner had set a route where I would arrive at the second charging stop with 15% battery, to a place with a single 50kw charger that was not part of any charging network (and therefore no way to know in advance if it was working or occupied), and at least 50 miles from any other DC charger. I knew that because I had checked the trip in advance on PlugShare and ABRP, and knew that charger also happened to be less than reliable, so I manually changed the route to go a different (longer) way.

The trip was doable, but if I had gone the way Porsche/Here suggested I could have easily been stranded. More range would have made that less of an issue (and depending on how much more range, it could have been a complete non-issue).

To the original topic of this thread though, if Porsche does add the e-Shift stuff to future cars, I hope it is optional and can be permanently disabled. While some may feel it makes the car more engaging it, the fake shifts are removing some acceleration. When I hit the go pedal I want the car to go, not pretend to shift and sort of go.

You can set your charging preferences in the route planner—for example, to specify that you prefer the Porsche Charging Network. Plus, the route planner shows every charger along the route, including its capacity. I don’t see why the scenario described could in any way fall under Porsche’s responsibility. If there’s no charging station on the fastest route, that route is unsuitable—just as it would be if there were no gas station.

 

[Petzi]

 

[PrudentOcean]

To the original topic of this thread though, if Porsche does add the e-Shift stuff to future cars, I hope it is optional and can be permanently disabled. While some may feel it makes the car more engaging it, the fake shifts are removing some acceleration. When I hit the go pedal I want the car to go, not pretend to shift and sort of go.

E-Shift is not about ultimate performance but about driver engagement. I'm sure it was designed with drivers of PDK-equipped Porsches in mind that may be looking for a larger, more practical vehicle for daily driving.

 

[Dragon Tourniquet]

You can set your charging preferences in the route planner—for example, to specify that you prefer the Porsche Charging Network. Plus, the route planner shows every charger along the route, including its capacity. I don’t see why the scenario described could in any way fall under Porsche’s responsibility. If there’s no charging station on the fastest route, that route is unsuitable—just as it would be if there were no gas station.

I didn't say it falls under Porsche's responsibility. I just pointed out that what you said of being able to just get in the car and drive, and the car telling you when and where to charge, isn't completely safe to do. Also, restricting the chargers to PCN isn't a great option, since there are a lot of other charging networks that are valid but not part of the network (Such as the Rivian Adventure Network, or Ionna, which as far as I can tell isn't part of PCN in the US, but is in Europe).

E-Shift is not about ultimate performance but about driver engagement. I'm sure it was designed with drivers of PDK-equipped Porsches in mind that may be looking for a larger, more practical vehicle for daily driving.

Yep, I totally get that, which is why I really hope it is an option that can be completely disabled. Some people may like it, others won't, and it would be hard for Porsche to justify not making it an option that can be permanently disabled since it is a trade off between engagement and performance.

 

[Barriwhite]

I didn't say it falls under Porsche's responsibility. I just pointed out that what you said of being able to just get in the car and drive, and the car telling you when and where to charge, isn't completely safe to do. Also, restricting the chargers to PCN isn't a great option, since there are a lot of other charging networks that are valid but not part of the network (Such as the Rivian Adventure Network, or Ionna, which as far as I can tell isn't part of PCN in the US, but is in Europe).



Yep, I totally get that, which is why I really hope it is an option that can be completely disabled. Some people may like it, others won't, and it would be hard for Porsche to justify not making it an option that can be permanently disabled since it is a trade off between engagement and performance.

It's an option that costs an extra 1k USD, and for those that do take it, they can leave it disabled when they don't feel like using it.

 

[Barriwhite]

Try configuring a GTS as well and do a like-with-like comparison.
I did one, and it was very close; GTS came out just 600 more.
When the time comes to change, I will probably get a GTS.

I don't know if I should be thankful for the suggestion anymore I'm close to pulling the trigger on a build, the GTS comes in at 3k extra over the 4S, but the monthly delta on a 48 month lease is 350 before tax. The interest rate on the GTS being close to 4% higher is so frustrating...

 

[Awaz]

The interest rate on the GTS being close to 4% higher is so frustrating...

In that case, I guess there are different finance deals in different regions.
And the chosen options might also be different from yours, yours being 3k extra.
By the way, some others have also mentioned the difference in GTS builds, and the S is about the same.
In the end, I guess you should go with your gut feeling and the budget.

 

[PrudentOcean]

Yep, I totally get that, which is why I really hope it is an option that can be completely disabled. Some people may like it, others won't, and it would be hard for Porsche to justify not making it an option that can be permanently disabled since it is a trade off between engagement and performance.

I'm certain that it is something that you will need to enable when you want to use it, similar to Sport Sound. It would therefore always be off by default in Normal mode, but you may be able to modify the other drive modes to your liking.

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