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I'd need a bathroom break - Lucid EV range record…

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from the article

Driving 749 miles without stopping generally takes at least 12 hours, a feat that we're physiologically impressed by to say the least. That distance does give you a wide range of city-to-city connections in the continental U.S. A single charge and some judicious use of the right pedal could ferry you between New York City and a Waffle House in Columbia, South Carolina in an Air Grand Touring. Similarly, it's just about the driving distance between San Diego and California's border with Oregon.
749 miles in 12 hours = 62 mph (hmmm very very close to 100 kph)

speed _IS_ the range killer - mostly due to aero-dynamic loads which have a V^2 component in terms of drag/power to over come the addtional load…

I'm pretty sure the Macan's 95 kWh capacity could do 400+ miles at 40-50 mph…

the Lucid is already rated at 500 miles of range - so 700 miles is plausible if you manage your speed and don't accelerate too hard and minimize starts/stops…

there is no way I'm going 12 hours in a car these days without at least 2 stops…but that's my personal cross to bear.
 

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Not CHARGING is not the same as not STOPPING. Just means you can stop anywhere you want rather than being a slave to DCFC stations.
 

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Also means you can do all your charging at home on very cheap off peak electricity rather than paying the way higher prices for public charging
 

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I've had my Turbo for two months and have already covered over 4,000 km. Taking a couple of 1,000 km trips has helped me eliminate range anxiety. I've found that if I have at least 400 km, which allows me to drive for 3 or 4 hours, that's all I need, and I wouldn't pay a dollar extra for more range. It's much more important to have fast charging like the Macan does.
Obviously, being able to charge at home 95% of the time helps a lot.
That's my experience.
 


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Yes, range not important as more infrastructure goes in. I don’t stop and wait for my car to get to 90-100% to get that range number. I charge just enough to reach the stop 150-180 miles out or the stop past that (generally they are several options every 60 miles or so) and move on. You get there faster and the breaks are refreshing.

It’s a newsworthy demo though. I have to wonder with cars like Lucid Gravity getting 120kwh+ battery packs if things are going in the wrong direction in the name of range wars. Personally the 300-400 mile cars are working nicely and strike a good balance, I’d rather we focus on reducing weight now and getting denser, more efficient battery tech.
 

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I've had my Turbo for two months and have already covered over 4,000 km. Taking a couple of 1,000 km trips has helped me eliminate range anxiety. I've found that if I have at least 400 km, which allows me to drive for 3 or 4 hours, that's all I need, and I wouldn't pay a dollar extra for more range. It's much more important to have fast charging like the Macan does.
Obviously, being able to charge at home 95% of the time helps a lot.
That's my experience.
If all your routes have good DCFC every 50-100 miles, yeah, that's usually good enough to do road trips. We've done over 50,000 miles of road trips in our Mach-E (270 mile EPA range) all across the US. It's possible on most major routes, and many of the non-major ones too. But not all, and not without compromise. Practical range is a lot less than EPA (and way less than WLTP), of course, factoring in high speed with safety buffers and 80% DCFC charges en route. I figure about 75% of EPA from a 100% charge, and 60% of EPA from an 80% charge to be safe in warm weather (less in cold).

Higher range reduces compromise and opens up more routes. It's also less stressful. Instead of showing up to the next DCFC at 10% (praying for no strong headwind, or detour), the extra 45 miles of range in our Macan means more peace of mind, and perhaps even one less DCFC during the day.

I've got a Lucid Gravity on order for next year (450 mile rated range) to replace the Mach-E. That will be a dream. Can even do routes that have 250 mile DCFC gaps that would be a real stretch in the Macan (and won't require a 100% charge to do it).
 

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Edmunds reviewed the Escalade and got a range of 558 miles https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2025-cadillac-escalade-iq-range-tested.html, which is nuts, as it also couldn't be weighed on their scales. Maybe 205kwh is too much battery?

Also this crazy snippet

the Escalade got up and moving from 0 to 60 mph in 4.9 seconds and kept pushing through the quarter mile in 13.1 seconds at 108.1 mph. To put it plainly, if you want your electric SUV to be quick, then you’re better off buying something else
To put this into perspective, these are BMW E39 M5 numbers from 1998 - the fastest 4 door car in the world! The M5 likely turns better though, even now.
 

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we should ask ourselves if there is a ICE at all that has over 600 HP and a range of significantly over 400 KM?

Just to set the record straight: my mustang V8 from 1967 has a tank for approx. 60 liters. It consumes about 24 liters / 100 km. Range: just over 200 km. but I still love the car. that was standard in 1960 at least for US cars or to be fair for such a engine and performance.
 
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we should ask ourselves if there is a ICE at all that has over 600 HP and a range of significantly over 400 KM?

Just to set the record straight: my mustang V8 from 1967 has a tank for approx. 60 liters. It consumes about 24 liters / 100 km. Range: just over 200 km. but I still love the car. that was standard in 1960 at least for US cars or to be fair for such a engine and performance.
Agree, had a Panamera hybrid as a loaner. Range in UK isn't significantly more. On a German Autobahn at max speed would be a different story though.
 


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we should ask ourselves if there is a ICE at all that has over 600 HP and a range of significantly over 400 KM?

Just to set the record straight: my mustang V8 from 1967 has a tank for approx. 60 liters. It consumes about 24 liters / 100 km. Range: just over 200 km. but I still love the car. that was standard in 1960 at least for US cars or to be fair for such a engine and performance.
But you can fill it up just about anywhere in a couple of minutes.
 

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Charging stations may be available nearly everywhere but charging still takes several times longer than filling up a gas tank.
i like my coffee and to be honest to pee from now and then. for me is a break every 4 hours perfect. just mho
 

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But you can fill it up just about anywhere in a couple of minutes.
Yes, EVs will never be able to fully catch ICE on an (en route) refueling basis.

Conversely, home charging is just the opposite (huge advantage to the EV). If your living situation allows for it.

But the Gravity gets pretty close to erasing the gap with ICE. An 800 mile drive would take 5x30 minute refueling stops in our Mach-E (2.5 hr). The Gravity should take 3x20 mins (1 hr). ICE 2x5 mins. But realistically in 800 miles, those 2 stops will be at least 15 minutes each to pee and stretch a little. So pretty close.
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