Innodrive disabling without notifying me

[FirstEV]

The „first big software update” will bring some improvements for Innodrive so let’s hope this gets fixed

Yeah! Arrival date of it is another issue.. haha!

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[ColdCase]

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Active Lane Keeping in most cars give you an audible warning once the system stops being active (usually due to something preventing it from correctly detecting lane boundaries). It works like this in Teslas, BMWs, MB and Audis and if I remember correctly Taycans also emit a sound when it happens (or at least I never had this issue with Taycan). This is the way it should work. It does not work like this is Macan when system goes from active to passive.

Just saying that I get both audible and visual warnings when Active Lane Keeping disengages. I'll have to check how I have my alerts configured. I don't think the audible warning is unique, however.

 

[ColdCase]

So I enabled "Active Lane Keeping" today on a long highway drive. It dropped out once and I received a double beep and big red take over steering warning in the left tube.

I can only speculate why it dropped out. It was dealing with tractor trailer induced buffeting as I was overtaking and there was some left over spray and mist from a recent rain.

With tunes blasting on the radio (Apple Music's Old Man station ) the beeps were barely audible (I may not have noticed if I hadn't herd them before) . I have not spent much time with carplay, but other cars would quiet the radio or USB music when sounding an audio alarm. I believe the Macan does this too. Dunno why not in this case.

 

[PrudentOcean]

I haven’t tried delaying taking over from InnoDrive, but doesn’t it stay engaged and try its best until you actually take over? And bring the car to a stop if you don’t take over?

Obviously there will be situations where it is challenged beyond its ability, but I would think that in many cases the driver’s failure to take over would not result in an accident.

 

[Petzi]

I haven’t tried delaying taking over from InnoDrive, but doesn’t it stay engaged and try its best until you actually take over? And bring the car to a stop if you don’t take over?

Obviously there will be situations where it is challenged beyond its ability, but I would think that in many cases the driver’s failure to take over would not result in an accident.

i am not sure i understand.. but innodrive is “on” when you engage it. it stays on. if it is failing due to unexpected conditions it warns and demands you to take over. as soon the conditions are sufficient it takes over again. after two or three hours of driving you know what innodrive can and cant handle. there is no element of surprise. what is still on when nnodrive expect and than demands you to take over is lane keep..

 

[TomekGnomek]

So I enabled "Active Lane Keeping" today on a long highway drive. It dropped out once and I received a double beep and big red take over steering warning in the left tube.

Good to know - thank you. This is the way it should work so disengaging without any warning (which is what OP reports) is a bug.

if it is failing due to unexpected conditions it warns and demands you to take over. as soon the conditions are sufficient it takes over again.

This is the way it should work. OP says is it happens without any warning and I can confirm I've had situations like that. Also it can disengage without any warning and without any unexpected conditions - clear straight road, good markings and good visibility. In such a case there is a big element of surprise

TBH it's good to know these are bugs and not design faults - it means some cars are faulty which happens. this tells me you car either press Porsche to have it fixed or just replace the car for a new one a hope it was just bad luck at the beginning of production. Because overall this car has very limited competition (if any) in terms of how it drives, build quality etc.

 

[PrudentOcean]

For what it’s worth, GM is planning to offer Level 3 self-driving:

https://arstechnica.com/cars/2025/10/ai-and-hands-free-driving-are-coming-to-gms-vehicles/

 

[USMA81]

The specific issue the OP presented is this: when the green steering wheel changes to gray, there is no audible or visual warning, at least in my experience. I had assumed that it was that way by design so that the driver would be forced to monitor the system, but it seems an audible tone would be better. This disconnect, for me, occurs if the corner is too tight for the set vehicle speed, or if the lane marking is missing - but overall disconnects are pretty rare for me and often it will engage again quickly.

Once Innodrive disconnects, does lane keeping engage and essentially keep the vehicle from driving off the road? That system does have audible and visual alerts. But maybe if Innodrive drops out, then there isn’t enough sensor input to allow LK to operate properly. Is this the audible signal that some are associating with the Innodrive disconnect? I need to test this; I haven’t let the vehicle go astray once Innodrive disconnects.

 

[FirstEV]

I haven't used my car for ages, sadly.. and the loaners I've driven doesn't have Innodrive. With that being said, I can't remember it giving away a sound when disengaging when the "steering wheel" turns gray from green, only when you leave off your hands for a while like @Petzi said and it engages in emergency mode.

 

[ColdCase]

The system can drop off on its own, and no warning was what the OP was posting about, I think. There is also the driver activity monitor which may be something different..

The owners manual says:

The driver’s steering behavior is monitored when Active Lane Keep is switched on and active. If there is no steering activity, i.e., hands not on the steering wheel or only resting lightly, a warning message appears on the instrument cluster. The system prompts the driver to actively take over the steering. If the driver does not react to the takeover prompt, the system switches to a passive state. In vehicles with an activated emergency stop function (depending on the country), the vehicle can be slowed to a standstill.

Active Lane Keep can be deactivated at any time by pressing the brake pedal

No display	Active Lane Keep is switched off.
Gray Wheel	Active Lane Keep is switched on but passive.
Green Wheel	Active Lane Keep is switched on and active.

 

[USMA81]

On my vehicle, there is no alert if Innodrive disengages (due to road conditions and not due to driver inattentiveness). Lane keeping is active if Innodrive disengages. LK does alert if the vehicle starts to stray out of the lane (red line in the HUD, audible tone, autonomous steering correction). The time between Innodrive disengaging, the car straying toward a lane marker and receiving the LK audible alert can be a bit long. It would be better IMO if there was a tone immediately when Innodrive disengages. This decision not to present an audible tone was obviously a conscious decision on the part of Porsche for some reason.

 

[TomekGnomek]

On my vehicle, there is no alert if Innodrive disengages

So it seems it's just bad design rather than a bug (perhaps some people reporting the sound refer to situations when it deactivates due to specific reason like driver's attention or road conditions).

For the system to deactivate without any clear reason any without any warning (this is the original post in this thread) it's not safe and it does not inspire confidence. Let's hope this gets fixed in the upcoming update.

PS what adds to this problem is somewhat odd position of the screen - lowered steering wheel covers the view of the screen a bit too much, which is not the case with any other Porsche models. It my case it covers the green icon indicator.

 

[Petzi]

So it seems it's just bad design rather than a bug (perhaps some people reporting the sound refer to situations when it deactivates due to specific reason like driver's attention or road conditions).

For the system to deactivate without any clear reason any without any warning it's not safe and it does not inspire confidence. Let's hope this gets fixed in the upcoming update.

it does not “deactivate without any clear reason”.

 

[TomekGnomek]

it does not “deactivate without any clear reason”.

I’ve driven around 30,000 km mostly on highways, and I beg to differ. I’ve had plenty of situations where it just deactivated on a perfectly good road (straight, clear, well-marked, and in ideal weather conditions with good visibility).

There are lots of reports here from many people having issues with assistance systems, so saying that "it does not" do something feels a bit too absolute.

 

[Petzi]

I’ve driven around 30,000 km mostly on highways, and I beg to differ. I’ve had plenty of situations where it just deactivated on a perfectly good road (straight, clear, well-marked, and in ideal weather conditions with good visibility).

There are lots of reports here from many people having issues with assistance systems, so saying that "it does not" do something feels a bit too absolute.

i am talking about a normal system. you seem to have really bad luck. whoever reports a problem, no matter how rare, you have it too. soo sad

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