PCA EV Tech Talk on Youtube

[SteveInKirkland]

Many interesting tidbits in here. Including demo mode for the HUD through a USB port. A slide with efficiency estimates for each wheel type. Taycan GT specs.



Aerodynamic improvements from ICE to EV Macan:

Aerodynamics of wheels on the Macan EV:

Roof rails are Neutral to drag!

There's also a comment about the 2 year service requiring a complete brake replacement that is a lot of money which I'm interested in learning more about. His recommendation was to buy the 2 year service package with the car. EDIT: 30 04 2025 07:32 the 2-year service comment is replacement of brake pads, brake fluid, and a coolant flush.

Also a fun comment in the Q&A that Porsche recommends against constantly fast charging the battery because it decreases lifespan.

There was a comment earlier that next year, Porsche will show the battery degradation in the car to the user because it's a regulatory requirement.

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[krissrock]

Also a fun comment in the Q&A that Porsche recommends against constantly fast charging the battery because it decreases lifespan.

interesting cuz we've seen articles on studies that say the difference is insignificant...

 

[Fun TC Driving]

That was worth watching though I skipped through the middle, Taycan 1/3rd of it and at this point us Macan EV addiccts know 90% of every “new video” out there. But still the 10% kept me involved. Thanks Steve for posting it.

 

[krissrock]

If you missed it, he confirmed the charging rate is only 9.6kw for US. 11kw in EU versions

 

[rjf]

“There's also a comment about the 2 year service requiring a complete brake replacement that is a lot of money which I'm interested in learning more about. His recommendation was to buy the 2 year service package with the car.”

Probably best to listen to that segment of the video presentation again starting at about the 13:30 mark.

I don’t believe the presenter mentioned anything about a complete brake replacement; in fact, I believe the gentleman said that the brakes rarely get used. All I heard him say was the need to replace the brake pads, brake fluid, and a coolant flush at the two year mark.

if I misinterpreted what the presenter said, please feel free to correct me.

 

[Awaz]

 

[SteveInKirkland]

“There's also a comment about the 2 year service requiring a complete brake replacement that is a lot of money which I'm interested in learning more about. His recommendation was to buy the 2 year service package with the car.”

Probably best to listen to that segment of the video presentation again starting at about the 13:30 mark.

I don’t believe the presenter mentioned anything about a complete brake replacement; in fact, I believe the gentleman said that the brakes rarely get used. All I heard him say was the need to replace the brake pads, brake fluid, and a coolant flush at the two year mark.

if I misinterpreted what the presenter said, please feel free to correct me.

I looked up the MSRP of the cost of the 2 yr, 4 yr, and 6 yr service plans and it isn't completely offensive on its face. So, I think you're right, there are limits to what is being replaced. I asked my sales guy to send me a full list of what they'll do in each service event for their packaged service product.

 

[rjf]

Excellent! It would great if you could share the list here on the forum once you receive it, please.

 

[krissrock]

so regarding the fast charging degrading the battery...and he said "Ther's a very small use case of ppl who would need to ever do that"

this leads me to believe that he's talkin about repeated DC charging over short perioeds...like someone running the car at a track.
otherwise, someone who owns the car and doesn't have a home to charge it at, they would ONLY be charging with public DC infrastructure...

 

[ColdCase]

It is common for reviewers to confuse the ICE plan with the EV plan.

For the EV plan, they replace the brake fluid and cabin air filter, then run like a 30 point check that helps keep the warranty in force, which takes awhile. They will check for brake wear and tire wear but replacing is additional cost. I decided to prepay the 24 month and shop around for the 48 month.

By the way, on first blush the EV plan seems more expensive than the ICE for less work, but the ICE is every 12 months, EV is double the time at every 24 months.

The EV coolant system is sealed and under much less stress than an ICE. It does not have a scheduled flush recommendation.

 

[SteveInKirkland]

so regarding the fast charging degrading the battery...and he said "Ther's a very small use case of ppl who would need to ever do that"

this leads me to believe that he's talkin about repeated DC charging over short perioeds...like someone running the car at a track.
otherwise, someone who owns the car and doesn't have a home to charge it at, they would ONLY be charging with public DC infrastructure...

My takeaway was: (1) the PCA presentation guy who answered the Q&A was a marketing guy; (2) the marketing guy was admitting on camera that there might be a DC fast charging scenario that leads to battery degradation; (3) this isn't the first time I've heard this from a Porsche representative, but there is no supporting information to draw a conclusion; (4) Porsche has known since 2022 that CA was going to require on-board and external battery health monitoring for subsequent model years and they have exposed nothing for customers to measure this as of today ... which makes me suspicious of why they are hiding battery health information.

 

[krissrock]

CA was going to require on-board and external battery health monitoring for subsequent model years and they have exposed nothing for customers to measure this as of today ... which makes me suspicious of why they are hiding battery health information.

Mfr's a lot of products hide a lot of information from the consumers.
it's because the majority of consumers are idiots. I really don't think it's a conspiracy to defraud owners with a bad battery.
You give the consumer too much information, and they'll be trying to sue or have warranty work on things that are working as designed or expected.

 

[SteveInKirkland]

Mfr's a lot of products hide a lot of information from the consumers.
it's because the majority of consumers are idiots. I really don't think it's a conspiracy to defraud owners with a bad battery.
You give the consumer too much information, and they'll be trying to sue or have warranty work on things that are working as designed or expected.

The warranty on the battery is 8 years / 100,000 miles. So, I'm not super concerned about warranty litigation until 2034 (which might resolve in 2044 . But are we saying that 3rd party mechanics won't be allowed to look at battery health ever ... and that's ok? It's not OK with me.

I've lived through the 986 IMS bearing lies. I never had a problem with the IMS bearing. I had a problem with the lies constantly told to me by the dealership which they defended by telling me it was Porsche policy.

 

[CandianPorsche83]

It is common for reviewers to confuse the ICE plan with the EV plan.

For the EV plan, they replace the brake fluid and cabin air filter, then run like a 30 point check that helps keep the warranty in force, which takes awhile. They will check for brake wear and tire wear but replacing is additional cost. I decided to prepay the 24 month and shop around for the 48 month.

By the way, on first blush the EV plan seems more expensive than the ICE for less work, but the ICE is every 12 months, EV is double the time at every 24 months.

The EV coolant system is sealed and under much less stress than an ICE. It does not have a scheduled flush recommendation.

When i bought my car I had the same questions and don't remember the exact numbers but it was just as you said. They basically told me its great because you only need to do it once every two years vs annually but the cost was approximately doubled .. which made me laugh and declined it.

 

[krissrock]

But are we saying that 3rd party mechanics won't be allowed to look at battery health ever ... and that's ok? It's not OK with me.

why wouldn't 3rd party mechanics be able to look at the battery health? apparently there's tools that anyone can buy to do that...

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