Porsche confirms ICE Macan, Cayenne and Panamera are coming back. How this decision will affect us Macan EV owners?

[MatC21]

Q6 e-tron is the sibling of the Macan EV and have the same shared platform - 100%. If the Q5 fills the ICE slot then perfect - just lash the new Macan body on top and watch those sales climb - hybrid + gas.

PPE - indeed that’s what they said but they’re also now revisiting all of this and with $800m investment I’m pretty certain a chunk of this will help modify any existing platform - they have one or three to choose from across the group.

To me the platform debate is largely irrelevant to the average consumer and I can’t help but think this is just a show of one-up-manship that all manufacturers feel obliged to have a coded name for their “platform(s)”. Porsche will want to re-establish their 80K annual volume Macan sales by whatever means.

Some of us predicted this moment some months ago only to be shot down by the platform naysayers, it hasn’t happened quite yet but seems highly probable at this point.

If available this time next year then my wife will find it hard to resist over the Macan EV for a replacement to her much treasured Macan T.

Yes, the Q6 is the Macan Electric equivalent on the same PPE platform. But we were talking about the ICE, and ICE is Q5, I think you misunderstood me. The PPE platform is not suitable to be turned into a combustion car.

A new ICE Macan will not appear before 2028. Earlier is impossible as they have only just started sketching that idea. This is also in line with insider reports.

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[Bohunk]

Had my 4S for 5 weeks and am in love. After 45 years of buying ICE I've bought my last. No regrets.

 

[W1NGE]

I drove o 2015 Macan S for 10 years and have had my 4S for a couple of months.
It took me a couple of weeks to adjust to the new car. I think it handles very differently. You can feel the extra weight and the inch or two larger I can also sense.
i leased so not worried about resale value
now that I’ve adjusted to it I don’t think i
ld ever go back to ice. I am enjoying every drive.
In three years I will look at the market again.. A lot can change in three years.
But I don’t understand why people have such an emotional attachment to the choice of EV vs ice. Get whatever you want. Don’t worry about the future choices. The tech will change very quickly.

But the 'tech' is effectively going backwards to ICE and perhaps hybrid.

 

[W1NGE]

Yes, the Q6 is the Macan Electric equivalent on the same PPE platform. But we were talking about the ICE, and ICE is Q5, I think you misunderstood me. The PPE platform is not suitable to be turned into a combustion car.

A new ICE Macan will not appear before 2028. Earlier is impossible as they have only just started sketching that idea. This is also in line with insider reports.

I'm prepared to stick my neck out and expect it will surface long before then - Porsche don't have 3 years to dither with this and can't survive on EV sales alone at this point - that's why the new Cayenne will be a complete mix. High volume is what keeps Porsche afloat.

 

[henrus]

It’s fine. Doesn’t change my preference for the EV. Fantastic car

 

[W1NGE]

Had my 4S for 5 weeks and am in love. After 45 years of buying ICE I've bought my last. No regrets.

I have a Taycan GTS ST and a 4S Macan EV for a long (this) weekend test drive - I'm not in love at all, close but no cigar in comparison (perfectly decent, don't get me wrong) and to be honest doesn't deserve the 4S badge (sorry). Next the Turbo and then we'll see.

 

[MatC21]

Well, there is a reason the porsche stock is underperforming and the company is doing poorly these days. It is because of past mismanagement and questionable decisions.
I agree that they won’t have three years to bring back the ICE Macan because in three years everyone will be buying chinese EVs instead.

 

[Mollieanna]

This is my third EV. I love my Macan. Certainly won’t be exchanging it for ICE.

 

[PrudentOcean]

I'm prepared to stick my neck out and expect it will surface long before then - Porsche don't have 3 years to dither with this and can't survive on EV sales alone at this point - that's why the new Cayenne will be a complete mix. High volume is what keeps Porsche afloat.

The quickest route to a new ICE model would be a minor cosmetic tweak and possibly some emissions improvements, paired with a new electronics platform that is compliant with the European cybersecurity regulations.

But I'm not even sure if that is feasible, since the Taycan and Macan use domain controllers whereas the ICE cars have dedicated controllers for everything from the lights and seats and doors to the instruments and steering wheel. So pretty much everything that goes into the body shell needs to be updated and re-architected. It would look like a refresh, but it would essentially be a new car.

So 2028 seems plausible to get a new ICE or hybrid ready for sale, and who knows how the market and the politicians feel about ICEs then.

 

[Bohunk]

I have a Taycan GTS ST and a 4S Macan EV for a long (this) weekend test drive - I'm not in love at all, close but no cigar in comparison (perfectly decent, don't get me wrong) and to be honest doesn't deserve the 4S badge (sorry). Next the Turbo and then we'll see.

One could reasonably expect a Taycan GTS ST to be superior to a 4S Macan EV in certain ways. While both EVs, these vehicles have different design goals and purposes. And different price tags.

 

[W1NGE]

This is my third EV. I love my Macan. Certainly won’t be exchanging it for ICE.

My wife has a Macan T and previously had a Macan Turbo. After this weekend's extended test the Macan EV won't feature in its current form.

Porsche must do better IMHO

 

[centrovi]

My wife has a Macan T and previously had a Macan Turbo. After this weekend's extended test the Macan EV won't feature in its current form.

Porsche must do better IMHO

What Macan did you test?

 

[50YearsSince]

People won't change until the pain of not changing exceeds the pain of changing. Porsche purists resisted SUV's and auto transmissions. Mr Market (+ government and common sense) will ultimately decide. Some will go slowly into the night, kicking and screaming. Enjoy your ride for as long as you can. Let's appreciate the past, present and future of our favorite brand and culture.

 

[PaoloPix]

Since I drive my Macan 4 every time I get into my wife's diesel car I feel a sense of discomfort... that smell of smoke makes me feel dirty.... compared to my electric car charged to 90% with my photovoltaic. I say this against my economic interest, I produce a component for the Porsche thermal engine.

 

[CHpluto]

I drove a Magan GTS ICE. It was a great car but the Macan EV is in every respect the better car. I will never go back to an ICE Porsche also after my experiences with my Tacan 4 CT over the last years.

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