1000 miles in my Turbo

[Colinb]

Honestly, most of it is positive, it's fast, handles well for a big car/suv

But here is my biggest bug bear...


That damn active lane keeping, it's down right dangerous if you live in a rural area, more than once I've had it almost spear me into oncoming traffic because it thought I was too close to the edge of the road/hedge..

So I have to remember to turn it off every time I drive holding the button for 5 seconds...


It's not a safety feature it's a death trap.

Also the speed limit warning is just plain wrong on a lot of roads. On a dual carriageway it keeps screaming about speeding... Because it thinks the road is a 30mph not a 70mph...

Why can't these junk "features" just be permenantly deactivated.

 

[SuperH]

I'm not rural so don't have those type of issues with it, other than on smart motorways where the run off from a slip road actually continues in to the hard shoulder that's open as a smart lane. Can you programme the diamond button on the steering wheel to turn it off, to save you having to ferret around behind the wheel each time you get in?

I was hoping the speed limit recognition issue would have been fixed with the navigation update that was pushed out last Friday which also remedied the sign recognition error message that cars with Innodrive had been experiencing from new. It's resolved the error warning, but like you I've noticed that the speed limits it's identifying are very hit and miss. That's also no doubt why the adaptive cruise control still isn't working with road sign recognition. It's frustrating as a) it means I can't properly use the cruise control I paid a hefty whack for as an optional extra and b) you can't rely on the speed limits the car is telling you as you don't trust it. I always have Car Play on, with Google Maps showing in one of the windows, which at least has reliable information on the standard road speed (ignoring any temporary speed limits for road works or smart motorways etc.).

 

[daveo4EV]

Honestly, most of it is positive, it's fast, handles well for a big car/suv

But here is my biggest bug bear...


That damn active lane keeping, it's down right dangerous if you live in a rural area, more than once I've had it almost spear me into oncoming traffic because it thought I was too close to the edge of the road/hedge..

So I have to remember to turn it off every time I drive holding the button for 5 seconds...


It's not a safety feature it's a death trap.

Also the speed limit warning is just plain wrong on a lot of roads. On a dual carriageway it keeps screaming about speeding... Because it thinks the road is a 30mph not a 70mph...

Why can't these junk "features" just be permenantly deactivated.

you can thank your EU overlords for lack of deactivation - since features like these are mandated for newer vehicle's - you can disable them each start up - but they are required by regulations to be re-enabled when the car is restarted…

this along with "cookie" warning and other EU contributions is really starting to piss me off - the latest round of many EU regulation they are now dictating user experience/interface design and based on my 30 years of tech experience they are sh*tty UI/UX designers…

un-checked power to regulate is leading us down a very very negative path - apparently some real doozies are due up in 2028 for what cars "must" do…

 

[SergeyIndy]

This is just the beginning of the imposing regs and a new known complaint from EU owners. Typical recommendation is to use up the diamond button mapped to speed limit sound warning OFF and then disable lane keep by holding the button at every restart.

 

[Diego]

I confirm that on rural or mountain road the active line keeping it's more dangerous than a safety help.
In addiction it looks like it has prevalence on obstacle revelation: 2 days ago I was driving and there was a road sign (due to roadwork) on the right, I started to move the steering wheel to the left but the car moved back to the right and I have to force it to avoid collision with the road sign)

 

[Colinb]

I have the diamond set for the speed warning, and yes the speed on the car is often out of whack with the Google speed limit... It even gets the speed limit wrong on the A43 outside of porsche Silverstone!

Is that the error message I keep seeing pop up that driving assist isn't available?

 

[Colinb]

I just wonder how long till someone gets seriously hurt and sues the car manufacturer because the car caused a collision.

 

[Awaz]

So I have to remember to turn it off every time I drive holding the button for 5 seconds...

Which button needs holding for 5 seconds?

 

[Colinb]

Which button needs holding for 5 seconds?

The active lane keep button, under the cruise control stalk

 

[colorpaulporsche]

I’m so glad in the US we can turn off these “safety” features and it saves them - no need to turn off at every start

 

[Rocket Roger]

You are driving a Porsche, so drive it, if you want the car to drive itself drive a Tesla or a Cadillac. My Macan EV will not have lane keep, one because I like to drive and two because this tech, like all self-driving tech, is flaky.

 

[Colinb]

You are driving a Porsche, so drive it, if you want the car to drive itself drive a Tesla or a Cadillac. My Macan EV will not have lane keep, one because I like to drive and two because this tech, like all self-driving tech, is flaky.

I didn't have a choice it was the only one they had, I don't want it to drive itself, I just want to be able to permanently disable it

 

[Timcat]

I think some of the lane keeping features are being confused with one another in this thread.

It is Lane Keep Assist that is automatically activated when you start the car (in the UK and the EU) and which can be deactivated by holding down the button under the cruise control stalk for a few seconds. This is the thing that makes a noise and tries to move the car away from any road paint it sees and is just an infernal nuisance on rural back roads.

This "feature" is mandated in the EU and the UK followed suit. All cars must have it now and it must reset each time the car is started. Fortunately, Porsche make it a simple one button push to deactivate the system. Others don't; it's a menu delve in my Tesla. This feature is a dangerous nuisance in every car that has it. Why we have to have it in the UK is anyone's guess. I was hoping that avoiding this kind of EU nonsense would have been a small silver lining in the cloud that was brexit, but apparently not!

Active Lane Keeping is part of Innodrive and is only active when positively engaged by the driver. It's really only intended for use on motorways and dual carriageways in conjunction with the adaptive cruise control. When used in these circumstances it works fine. For reasons I have posted in another thread, it's probably better than Tesla's Autopilot. You can activate Active Lane Keeping on rural roads but, like Tesla's Autopilot, it's hopeless in these circumstances. Anyway, as someone has already commented, why would you want a computer to drive your Porsche on a rural road!

 

[Throb]

You are driving a Porsche, so drive it, if you want the car to drive itself drive a Tesla or a Cadillac. My Macan EV will not have lane keep, one because I like to drive and two because this tech, like all self-driving tech, is flaky.

It's standard because it's mandatory.

Why we have to have it in the UK is anyone's guess. I was hoping that avoiding this kind of EU nonsense would have been a small silver lining in the cloud that was brexit, but apparently not!

Then you weren't paying attention. It was pointed out many times by remainers that leaving the EU would largely change nothing in terms of rules. The difference would be that we just wouldn't have a say in them any more.

 

[Timcat]

Then you weren't paying attention. It was pointed out many times by remainers that leaving the EU would largely change nothing in terms of rules. The difference would be that we just wouldn't have a say in them any more.

Oh, I was. Don't get me wrong, I thought that the advantages of remaining in the EU far outweighed the disadvantages (i was a remainer) and I agree regarding having no say in making EU rules. However, the later issue is only relevant when considering those rules and regulations that apply to cross boarder trade in goods and services plus travel into the EU. EU rules do not apply to wholly domestic UK regulations, such as what we mandate in cars registered here. So we did not have to follow this particular piece of EU over-reach.

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