Carkey on Audi A6 (PPE), coming next on the Macan?

[masmole]

It's not about being "elitist". CarKey is such an inconsequential option in the grand scheme of things yet you said it was the sole reason you didn't order the Porsche. However...

Digital key is not inconsequential at all. Like someone else said on this thread, people will place a different value on certain features. Some would say the availability of manual transmissions on some 911 models is inconsequential because "PDK is better" but for me, I will keep buying manual 911's for as long as they make it. For my wife, the lack of digital key WAS the dealbreaker. Of course it's not the sole reason, because who the heck doesn't factor in other things in their car decisions. However, it was the biggest reason and what tipped her over the BMW side. The Cayenne did a few things better and the X5 did other things better, so they were evenly matched, but in the end my wife said: "I want the one with digital key" and that's how Porsche lost the sale in my household. Had digital key been available for it, we'd likely have a 3rd Porsche in the garage.

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[Throb]

Of course it's not the sole reason

Like I said, this whole interaction started with you saying it *was* the sole reason you didn't choose the Porsche. Good day!

 

[masmole]

Like I said, this whole interaction started with you saying it *was* the sole reason you didn't choose the Porsche. Good day!

Reading comprehension much? Read my original post again to which you replied to, and no where did I mention the lack of digital key was the sole reason we didn't choose the Porsche. It was ultimately the deal-breaker, but not the only reason. You are simply arguing over your failure to interpret my words. Seems like you came to the conclusion that it was the "sole reason" from my statement: "When my wife needed a new daily driver, the Cayenne's lack of digital key made her choose a BMW X5 instead". Are you just upset that my wife chose an X5 over a Cayenne over a digital key feature that is so trivial to you, but not to her? Why even say something? Some of us are so quick to judge...

 

[CandianPorsche83]

Reading comprehension much? Read my original post again to which you replied to, and no where did I mention the lack of digital key was the sole reason we didn't choose the Porsche. It was ultimately the deal-breaker, but not the only reason. You are simply arguing over your failure to interpret my words. Seems like you came to the conclusion that it was the "sole reason" from my statement: "When my wife needed a new daily driver, the Cayenne's lack of digital key made her choose a BMW X5 instead". Are you just upset that my wife chose an X5 over a Cayenne over a digital key feature that is so trivial to you, but not to her? Why even say something? Some of us are so quick to judge...

To be fair ... i read it the same way as @Throb ... sometimes its just hard to interpret messages online. Your reasoning makes total sense to me though! We should judge each and every factor that is meaningful to us.

Cheers all!

 

[Throb]

Reading comprehension much? Read my original post again to which you replied to, and no where did I mention the lack of digital key was the sole reason we didn't choose the Porsche. It was ultimately the deal-breaker, but not the only reason.

Were the other reasons a secret at this point? Your post was deliberately worded to imply that it was such a big deal that it resulted in a lost sale for Porsche. You wanted a bigger impact from your post. The reality it seems is there were several factors that influenced your wife's decision. Only when I suggested it was a bit of silly reason not to buy a car did you then bring up the other reasons. So you moved the goalposts and the whole point of me replying to you. Had you mentioned the other aggravating issues, such as the seats, then I wouldn't have given it a second thought.

You are simply arguing over your failure to interpret my words. Seems like you came to the conclusion that it was the "sole reason" from my statement: "When my wife needed a new daily driver, the Cayenne's lack of digital key made her choose a BMW X5 instead".

If you write,, "the Cayenne's lack of digital key made her choose a BMW X5 instead", and don't mention other features that were factors, then people can only interpret it one way, as another member has suggested above.

Are you just upset that my wife chose an X5 over a Cayenne over a digital key feature that is so trivial to you, but not to her?

The only person that seems upset is you. And why would I care if your wife chose an X5 over a Cayenne? That would be bizarre. It does shine a light on the way you think, however. I think you should grow up.

As it happens I love the X5, and I would choose one over a Cayenne, most likely. I even owned the current G05 for two years between 2019 and 2021.

 

[alxman]

Don’t forget to mention the cost difference. The BMW X5 m60i is a lot cheaper than the Cayenne S while providing better gas mileage, better (although uglier, IMO) infotainment system, and more cargo space. I drove a BMX X6 V8 for many years and loved it. I struggled for a while when trying to decide between the new X6 m60i (same car as the X5 m60i, except for the cargo area) and the Cayenne S. At the end, I decided to try the Porsche’s brand and go full electric so I bought the Macan 4S, which cost a little more than the Bimmer but less than the Cayenne. I liked the Porsche’s interior and exterior design better (hated the new iPad looking screen on the BMW), didn’t need as much space since my kids are in college now, and liked the idea of not having to pump gas anymore. I am very happy with the Macan. It’s a beautiful car and a joy to drive! I don’t regret my decision although, every now and then, I miss driving an ICE car. Maybe that new manual 911 Carrera T or a BMW M4 convertible (if they go back to an integrated to the dashboard screen) is in my future… lol

 

[masmole]

Were the other reasons a secret at this point? Your post was deliberately worded to imply that it was such a big deal that it resulted in a lost sale for Porsche. You wanted a bigger impact from your post. The reality it seems is there were several factors that influenced your wife's decision. Only when I suggested it was a bit of silly reason not to buy a car did you then bring up the other reasons.

Nope. Not moving goalposts, not concealing anything. I didn't mention the other reasons because 1) the other reasons don't mean anything because ultimately digital key really was the main reason she chose the X5 over the Cayenne with the two being evenly matched otherwise, and 2) that is straying from the topic of this thread and this is not an X5 vs Cayenne comparison thread, though thanks to you, it is turning into one.

Make no mistake the lack of digital key was the deal-breaker and was indeed the main reason why Porsche lost a sale to my wife. Were it not for the digital key, it was really a toss-up between the two. I personally wanted her to pick the Cayenne, but her car, her choice.

But now you keep harping on about how I needed to disclose other reasons for my wife's decision? What for? It's not relevant to this thread, except you seem to really want to know. In the end, she really did choose the X5 because of the Cayenne's lack of digital key and I simply wanted to share on the thread why digital key resulted in us having an X5 in our garage instead of the Cayenne I wanted. Yet here you are dissecting the psychology of why I replied to this thread to begin with, with a personal attack? And I'm the one that needs to grow up? That's rich.

 

[Throb]

In the end, she really did choose the X5 because of the Cayenne's lack of digital key

And we're back to square one...

Nobody forced you to disclose that your wife ruled out a Cayenne because it didn't have a digital key. It was your choice, and you don't get to police the replies.

This is a discussion forum. If you don't want people to comment then don't share.

 

[themacnut]

Some people just like to argue. Ignore them and move on.

 

[masmole]

Nobody forced you to disclose that your wife ruled out a Cayenne because it didn't have a digital key. It was your choice, and you don't get to police the replies.

Oh you mean like how you policed my reply to the thread to begin with?

If digital key is a deal breaker on buying a Porsche Cayenne, then you probably shouldn't have been in the market for a Cayenne in the first place.

Must be ok for you to do it, hypocrite. My original reply wasn’t directed at you but to the thread in general since the topic was digital car key and this happened to be a topic that influenced our recent car purchase. Please do clarfiy what you meant by your first reply to me. Why exactly did you think my wife and I shouldn’t have been in the market for a Cayenne just because she ultimately chose the X5 for its digital key feature. I mean seriously - that’s a bit dismissive if you read your post again. As if you were suggesting she‘s not worthy to be consiering a Cayenne just because she eventually placed more value on a feature (digital key) that you have deemed inconsequential. It ended up being important to her and just tipped the balance to the X5’s favor. If neither had digital key, I think my wife would be driving a Cayenne now.

 

[daveo4EV]

Some people just like to argue. Ignore them and move on.

no they don't and I won't move on!

 

[themacnut]

no they don't and I won't move on!

Nice one @daveo4EV. But I know you have been super helpful.

 

[Throb]

Oh you mean like how you policed my reply to the thread to begin with?

You've misunderstood what is meant by "policing the replies". You made a statement saying Digital Key was the reason your wife chose a BMW. I thought this was odd to base a purchasing decision on a single option, and an innocuous one at that. So I replied and stated that. But you didn't like it and therefore are trying to police the replies TO YOUR POST.

That's how discussion forums work. If you're that sensitive then maybe forums aren't for you.

Must be ok for you to do it, hypocrite. My original reply wasn’t directed at you but to the thread in general

I'm not a hypocrite. I haven't come on here, shared my purchasing decision, and then got upset because I didn't like what people said about it. If I post I chose RAS on my new Macan, and somebody said they wouldn't have chosen that option, and then I got upset, then I would be a hyprocrite as I'd be getting upset at someone's response to my post.

That's the point. It's a discussion forum. You can choose to post your buying process, throughts, or whatever else you want to share with the other members. But you don't get to control how people reply.

Please do clarfiy what you meant by your first reply to me. Why exactly did you think my wife and I shouldn’t have been in the market for a Cayenne just because she ultimately chose the X5 for its digital key feature. I mean seriously - that’s a bit dismissive if you read your post again. As if you were suggesting she‘s not worthy to be consiering a Cayenne just because she eventually placed more value on a feature (digital key) that you have deemed inconsequential. It ended up being important to her and just tipped the balance to the X5’s favor. If neither had digital key, I think my wife would be driving a Cayenne now.

Jesus. This is incredibly tedious. I've explained already. Porsches are usually much more expensive than cars from other manufacturers, but people still buy them for many reasons and priorities, such as the way they drive, vanity, etc. If your wife's priority was a Digital Key, then maybe the extra expense would have been wasted buying a Porsche. If anything it's a complement to your wife as she concentrated on what she wanted and didn't get drawn in by the badge!!

Why you seem so offended is completely beyond me. You seem extremely over-sensitive.

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