New Entry-Level Macan and Macan 4S Announced

[andics]

Wow, that's fast, I thought it would be 12 months - so 4 months from order to to delivery.
Has there been less appetite then initially thought for the UK?

they seem to have completely different queues based on the model.

My 4 order was placed in June with delivery Feb/Mar 25...switching to the 4s made me gain 3 months or so..

 

[tmrqs]

Has anyone deduced why the Turbo is being held back? Especially as the turbo is a higher priced model, it results in higher next margins...

What I was told is they know the demand for the Turbo is lower than more affordable trims, they’re prioritizing volume.
Turbo allocations will seemingly remain more difficult to get.

 

[Fun TC Driving]

I am sure that is what you were told but economics 101 says that makes no sense. They have incurred hundreds of millions of development costs. Basic economic practice says when a manufacturer has incurred staggering costs up front, they want to recoup those costs soonest. If their assembly line is cranking out as many Macan EV’s as it can hold nose-to-tail, and if they make $15K net on a Macan 4, and $22K net on a Turbo, if their supply chain is able to turn out enough parts for each, it makes more economic sense to make a bunch of each, e.g., not deliberately holding back their most profitable ones.

I think there is another reason, whatever it is, why they are deliberately holding back many Turbos.

 

[PanameraFrank]

My guess is some sort of supply issue with a Turbo part. It doesn't really make sense otherwise. Every dealer I've talked to (6+) is giving away 4 allocations to people off the street but still have a long line of people wanting the Turbo. I was still 8th in line at a local dealership for a Turbo but have been offered both a 4 and 4S allocation from them.

A number of those people will now move to a 4S.

Also to echo the above, I was given a 4S allocation with October production and have been told dealers are getting a lot of those, too. This is for the US.

 

[andics]

Or...they are holding up the turbo to observe overlaps with Taycan buyers...

i doubt anyone buying a Macan 4 would switch to a Taycan...while probably with some discounts there is overlap between Macan Turbo and Taycan 4s sales

 

[MrB]

Or...they are holding up the turbo to observe overlaps with Taycan buyers...

i doubt anyone buying a Macan 4 would switch to a Taycan...while probably with some discounts there is overlap between Macan Turbo and Taycan 4s sales

I would not be at all surprised if that were to be the case. I’m very much in the window for a Turbo to replace my Taycan given the relative costs.

 

[Fun TC Driving]

I always have liked the Taycan’s looks especially the Cross Turismo. So I started building a Taycan that had everything my future Macan Turbo would, and despite the Taycan be slower to 60 MPH, having lesser carrying area when it had 4 passengers, lesser back seat area for my growing grandkids,, and in some ways a second tier UI, it was its +$30K more that stop my configuring it. I still greatly admire the Taycan, just love its looks, but not for that price differential — and for me some key downsides

 

[andics]

I always have liked the Taycan’s looks especially the Cross Turismo. So I started building a Taycan that had everything my future Macan Turbo would, and despite the Taycan be slower to 60 MPH, having lesser carrying area when it had 4 passengers, lesser back seat area for my growing grandkids,, and in some ways a second tier UI, it was its +$30K more that stop my configuring it. I still greatly admire the Taycan, just love its looks, but not for that price differential — and for me some key downsides

How did you conclude that there is more backseat space in the Macan vs the Taycan?

I have a 4S Sport Turismo, and my wife sat in the Macan at Goodwood last weekend. Her "qualitative" feedback was, "It is really small on the back."

Admittedly, she is used to a GLE now, which has a lot of space back...so I am looking for evidence to prove her wrong

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[Fun TC Driving]

I have not personally but about 5 or maybe 10 video creators who have sat in both all came to and voiced that conclusion. Perhaps what your wife experienced was a difference in how far back the front seat was?

 

[wmras]

How did you conclude that there is more backseat space in the Macan vs the Taycan?

I have a 4S Sport Turismo, and my wife sat in the Macan at Goodwood last weekend. Her "qualitative" feedback was, "It is really small on the back."

Admittedly, she is used to a GLE now, which has a lot of space back...so I am looking for evidence to prove her wrong

The Macan electric has a longer wheelbase and ~2.5" of increased rear legroom according to one of the reviews.

 

[taycanstuff]

Does anyone know where to find the figures for BHP without boost for the 4S. The comparison configurator only shows with boost figures, which I understand you can only use for 2.5 seconds at a time?

 

[grizzler]

Does anyone know where to find the figures for BHP without boost for the 4S. The comparison configurator only shows with boost figures, which I understand you can only use for 2.5 seconds at a time?

https://www.porsche.com/usa/models/...macan-4s-electric/#technical-data-XABDC1-2025
Is this helpful?
442 hp without launch control...
But where do you get those 2,5 seconds from?

 

[taycanstuff]

Thanks - read here:
The specified power is available for at least 10 seconds and the specified overboost with standard launch control for at least 2.5 seconds.
https://www.porsche.com/uk/accessoriesandservice/porscheservice/vehicleinformation/bev/

Something to with overheating and cool down?

 

[grizzler]

Thank you, never found something specific from Porsche concerning the taycan...

 

[shesallthat]

Sincerely I tried to configure a 4S with the same option I choose for my 4 and I don't see any improvement (apart the red brake).I don't like the new colors (except the personalized ones but clearly out of my budget and the use I have to do with this car) I don't need the added HPs and the 4S will cost me more (3K€) and reduce my expected range. But it's my opinion.

I really wish the new GUI is simply a bad render... it's awful (I bought a Porsche not a MB with bluish display)

now wait a minute … my car is currently on a boat on its way to me. I’m about to get upset.