70 mph drive range test in Macan EV Turbo with 22" wheels -- result: 290 miles range

[soundman]

I'm hoping this will mean a Macan 4 on 22inch (which will likely be what I am getting) will get close to its EPA of 308 Miles!

I wouldn’t hold out much hope. Our Macan 4 never charges to more than 280 range and has never delivered over 200 miles in moderate speed driving. Now the temperature here in North East Scotland is down to single figures Celsius it won’t charge to more than 245 range. Beginning to wish we’d kept our Cross Turismo

 

[Yves]

I wouldn’t hold out much hope. Our Macan 4 never charges to more than 280 range and has never delivered over 200 miles in moderate speed driving. Now the temperature here in North East Scotland is down to single figures Celsius it won’t charge to more than 245 range. Beginning to wish we’d kept our Cross Turismo

That is quite low indeed … and I see a similar trend on mine … not impressed with the range, I see indeed around 240miles at like 10C ?!

 

[CandianPorsche83]

I wouldn’t hold out much hope. Our Macan 4 never charges to more than 280 range and has never delivered over 200 miles in moderate speed driving. Now the temperature here in North East Scotland is down to single figures Celsius it won’t charge to more than 245 range. Beginning to wish we’d kept our Cross Turismo

hmmm that's not great

 

[PanameraFrank]

I wouldn’t hold out much hope. Our Macan 4 never charges to more than 280 range and has never delivered over 200 miles in moderate speed driving. Now the temperature here in North East Scotland is down to single figures Celsius it won’t charge to more than 245 range. Beginning to wish we’d kept our Cross Turismo

Do you have a trip computer photo from a trip of more than 30 miles/50km of continuous driving?

The guess o meter is about as good at estimating range as I am at the stock market.

 

[byebye]

I would recommend 100 km… if you start with a cold battery (ie with no preconditioning)

 

[soundman]

Do you have a trip computer photo from a trip of more than 30 miles/50km of continuous driving?

The guess o meter is about as good at estimating range as I am at the stock market.

I don’t but I‘ll take one and post it up.

hmmm that's not great

No it’s not and I can’t understand why, when it has a quoted range of 415 miles does it never charge to anything close to that. It’s going back to Porsche for analysis this week to see if there’s a problem.

 

[PanameraFrank]

You're certainly never going to get 410 miles of range. But post your overall trip computer, specifically with consumption/efficiency numbers, and we'll take a look.

 

[soundman]

You're certainly never going to get 410 miles of range. But post your overall trip computer, specifically with consumption/efficiency numbers, and we'll take a look.

 

[PanameraFrank]

@soundman those numbers look fine to me. The overall efficiency will show somewhat high, especially in cold weather, due to starting/stopping/heating the car.

37.5 for October/November really isn't too bad overall.

I'm sorry if you anticipated more mileage but 300-320 highway in the summer with ideal conditions is the realistic range.

 

[soundman]

@soundman those numbers look fine to me. The overall efficiency will show somewhat high, especially in cold weather, due to starting/stopping/heating the car.

37.5 for October/November really isn't too bad overall.

I'm sorry if you anticipated more mileage but 300-320 highway in the summer with ideal conditions is the realistic range.

I didn’t anticipate anything it’s what Porsche stated when we were buying the car. They supplied figures of 415 miles range and told us that should give an average of 350 miles depending on driving speeds and temperatures
As you appear to know what you’re talking about can you explain why the car never charges to more than 280 miles?

 

[byebye]

It’s not the way the car charges.
it’s just related to efficiency (miles per kWh, or kWh per mile) and usable kWh in the battery.
With 95 kWh, 415 miles range equals 4,36 miles / kWh
only small / light / not so powerful / with one motor cars can achieve that (in normal conditions), and the Macan is not that at all.
It can’t achieve that efficiency in normal driving conditions.
They told you what you wanted to hear…

Indeed, it's much the same as with ICE Cars.

 

[DuckMan]

@byebye Can you discuss the pre conditioning process a bit more for the Macan? Not sure I have completely understood the best prep approach for longer trips.

 

[byebye]

General idea with preconditioning is to reach a battery temperature that is the best for efficiency (1) or fast charging (2)

(1) the main use case, is in cold morning. If you start with a cold battery, efficiency is bad, moreover, regen is limited. In the end, for the first miles, efficiency could be very bad.
The idea is to keep charging the battery until you are ready to go ; and, if the option is available in the car, to set the departure time: it will heat the battery to improve efficiency from the first mile/km!

(2) by setting a fast charger in the navigation system, few miles before the charging stop, the car will over consume to heat (or if it’s very very hot to cool) the battery.
In this case, it’s not directly related to efficiency (it degrades it during the preconditionning process!). The objective is to have the best charging curve possible, and to spare time.

As we know, in the Macan, we cannot just push a button to ask for preconditioning.

 

[PanameraFrank]

As you appear to know what you’re talking about can you explain why the car never charges to more than 280 miles?

My Taycan used to show 198 miles on the range meter and then I'd drive it 250 miles on a road trip. In general it's going to show you the minimum range it thinks you have. The computer is guessing your range by analyzing your driving style, temperature, etc. It's accuracy can vary wildly.

350 miles for mixed use during the summer is likely possible. Some tests have shown that already. But cold & high speeds are the two worst enemies to range.

As you approach freezing your range will drop closer to 70% of maximum. So 350 becomes 245. Wind & rain can also really disrupt efficiency.

Once you start going above 70mph, things get bleak. 80mph can be as much as a 25% range loss vs 70 mph.

There's also a big difference between highway range and daily driving. Your daily driving efficiency will always be poor due to the car having to start up/heat/etc and not having enough time to balance out the efficiency.

 

[byebye]

As you approach freezing your range will drop closer to 70% of maximum. So 350 becomes 245. Wind & rain can also really disrupt efficiency.

Each (wind and rain) could be as costly as 10% less (assuming same speed under rain or not).
So, 300 miles in ideal conditions on the highway could become 240 miles with front wind / under rain ; and if it’s very cold, 30% less: 170 miles (worst case scenario).
During my 7 years of EV ownership, I’ve never experienced such a bad scenario!

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