One-pedal driving

[daveo4EV]

OPD is only here because Tesla could never get the blended braking seamless and so it made a generation of people who think it’s the best thing since sliced bread but in reality 95% of the world coasts and brakes, we have 4 cars and they all brake and coast in the same manner (yes you can drive the iX OPD in B mode but nobody in the family uses it)

I understand and agree with your point - but I find Tesla's system a bit more "honest" - let me explain...

in terms of driver control I know for a fact that there is no friction braking involved on a Tesla unless I as the driver touch the brake pedal - it's a very 1 to 1 mechanical relationship - and I can adjust the amount of regen from lifting off the accelerator - so I as a driver control the amount of regen and then can blend in the friction brakes 100% under my control…

with "blended" braking I only control deceleration, but not the "mix" of regen and friction braking - in fact when you start out with Taycan in the morning it's all friction braking, and then later in the day after things warm up you get a 'mix' - so it's constantly changing since it's under control of the computer as to how much friction braking you're getting and how much regen you're getting

I'm not saying one system is better/worse - but one system is certainly more under the driver's control - and it's not the Porsche system - because it's entirely a software illusion as to the mix of regen and friction and the driver has no control over the exact blend of how the deceleration is accomplished…

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[Etmaniac]

Oh, and yes, OPD does active the braking lights, for all cars I think.

Hey, if the EU can regulate your bloody bottle cap to stay tethered to your bottle I am sure they regulated the hell out of this one too.

PS. Hoping not to start another thread on EU regulations

 

[xrtdr]

But this is not "OPD" so I still don't know about brake lights. Haven't had a friend tail me to see yet.

 

[Etmaniac]

It does, if the car brakes on the engine with OPD beyond a certain level it turns on the brake lights.

 

[daveo4EV]

Oh, and yes, OPD does active the braking lights, for all cars I think.

Hey, if the EU can regulate your bloody bottle cap to stay tethered to your bottle I am sure they regulated the hell out of this one too.

PS. Hoping not to start another thread on EU regulations

correct - brakes lights on EV's w/regen are activated by accelerometers that turn on the brake lights at some specific g-level of deceleration…brake lights are no longer purely controlled by a on/off switch of the brake pedal.

 

[ColdCase]

Porsche's implementation of mild one pedal (emulating engine breaking) appears to be perfect to me and for spirited driving. You can choose to coast instead to extend range.

I've been one pedal driving a EV for 5 years now, kinda like it around town or low speed. But it takes co much attention to drive back roads or highways smoothly. Its hard to precisely control braking/acceleration when driving with some enthusiasm. I wouldn't expect anyone that drives with enthusiasm (e.g.Porsche fans) to be happy with one pedal.

We also have learned much since marketing thrust one pedal onto an unaware public years ago. It was touted as, and felt like, you were saving electons and extending range, where, in fact, it hurts range or efficiency. Its become just a novelty that marketeers can have fun with. I've stopped using it unless I'm playing the game of timing stops at stop lights.

IMHO, with all the software bugs Porsche has with these cars, they should be fixing the bugs and not spend any effort developing a Porsche worthy implementation of aggressive one pedal.

 

[Senna]

I rented a Tesla Model 3 for three days but turned off the one-pedal driving feature because I wasn’t a fan. On the other hand, I appreciate the hold feature in the Macan.

 

[evdriver2016]

When you first use one pedal there is a tendency to “not like” just because it is different.

But once you get used to it, which doesn’t take that long, It feels like the normal way to drive and you don’t want to go back.

I do hope Porsche adds the option to turn it on. Would love to be able to go back and forth between settings depending on driving situations.

 

[Awaz]

I had one pedal drive mode (a B mode) in my BMW i4, but I was never enthusiastic about it. Had to keep shifting to and from B mode as the situation demanded, mainly to gain more range. But found it off-putting having to keep shifting from one mode to another.

On Macan, I don't have the regen on, love the coasting without it which it does 'forever' even on a flat road, despite its weight.
Got used to the traditional way of using the brake very quickly on Macan, and love the hold function incorporated within the brake.
Granted, we all have different preferences, but I would say “well done Porsche”

 

[krissrock]

I've never experienced OPD, but at this point, i don't think i would use it.

Coasting is definitely more efficient., as you can get off the gas earlier to coast before using the brakes for regen.

What i would like to see is option for the regen. I think regen is too strong right now. Its definitely more braking effect than one would see on an ICE vehicle... So i would like to options to lower the regen.

I have a hill that's maybe almost a 1/2 - 3/4 of a mile long... and in ICE vehicles, coasting, i will pick up speed. Maybe doing 60 mph coasting to the bottom. With the macan with regen on, i decelerate. I'd start to hold up traffic. I can't take advantage of the energy the hill would give me cuz the regen braking is just too high.

 

[USMA81]

I have an Audi Q8 Etron that has paddles for 2 levels of regen braking. I find it useful if I want to scrub a bit of speed off (light), as descending a hill, for example, or if I am approaching a stop light (moderate). I can use this without first stepping on the brakes (which I have to do eventually when stopping, or if the regen isn’t sufficient). Left paddle increases regen (from none to light to moderate), right decreases. I kind of like it and was hoping it would be carried into the Macan design. The Q8 was my first EV. I didn’t care about OPD, and still don’t, but I think this is a nice “half-way” feature, like assigning regen to the diamond button. The nice thing about the paddles is that they are much easier to access than the diamond button. With my hands on the wheel, I struggle to find the diamond with my thumb. Maybe that would get easier with training, but right now it is a hassle and I don’t use it.

 

[Budget M3]

I have an Audi Q8 Etron that has paddles for 2 levels of regen braking. I find it useful if I want to scrub a bit of speed off (light), as descending a hill, for example, or if I am approaching a stop light (moderate). I can use this without first stepping on the brakes (which I have to do eventually when stopping, or if the regen isn’t sufficient). Left paddle increases regen (from none to light to moderate), right decreases. I kind of like it and was hoping it would be carried into the Macan design. The Q8 was my first EV. I didn’t care about OPD, and still don’t, but I think this is a nice “half-way” feature, like assigning regen to the diamond button. The nice thing about the paddles is that they are much easier to access than the diamond button. With my hands on the wheel, I struggle to find the diamond with my thumb. Maybe that will get easier with training.

That sounds like an ideal design on the Audi. Hopefully someone at Porsche will see this and take note! Lol

 

[Chili]

A car slowing down without brake lights is just like an ICE car downshifting and using engine braking. It not something unique to electric vehicles.

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