Real consumption / range / efficiency thread … post your Macan EV performance 📊

[PanameraFrank]

That was my feeling and what data suggests, although I've not seen anyone review one on 20" wheels.

@daveo4EV above is on 20" wheels. Turbo so a bit less range than a 4 but still.

 

[4sCT21]

Certainly not impressive figures at this point. Best I've seen are circa 3.3m/kwh.

Given time in development and advancement in technology, I'd have hoped for better.

 

[daveo4EV]

Certainly not impressive figures at this point. Best I've seen are circa 3.3m/kwh.

Given time in development and advancement in technology, I'd have hoped for better.

I agree…

 

[4sCT21]

Just to add, I was getting (at very best) 3.3 m/kwh from my Genesis GV60 sport plus (2022 MY) using a 77 kwh battery (A very similar car to the 4s but on 21" wheels)

That dropped to around 2.2m/kwh in autumnal / winter UK weather.

So that equated to around 210-250 miles on the motorway.

My round-trip is 270 miles, so id fast charge on the way back.

I'm obviously comparing the Macan to this.

 

[daveo4EV]

I really need to see what the Macan EV can do when we're not being pushed by traffic flow on a 75 mph speed limit highway…

I'm hoping at 65-70 mph we're more easily past a 250 mile range…

 

[PanameraFrank]

The problem, IMO, is that the Macan was designed to come out 2 or 3 years ago. The software really delayed the car but they didn't really update the rest of the car along with the delay. It feels like we got a MY22 Electric Macan with MY24 software.

We're seeing MY25 Taycans have a notable range advantage over the Macan and with better charging tech.

I've honestly contemplated swapping my Macan order for a MY25 Taycan.

 

[4sCT21]

The problem, IMO, is that the Macan was designed to come out 2 or 3 years ago. The software really delayed the car but they didn't really update the rest of the car along with the delay. It feels like we got a MY22 Electric Macan with MY24 software.

We're seeing MY25 Taycans have a notable range advantage over the Macan and with better charging tech.

I've honestly contemplated swapping my Macan order for a MY25 Taycan.

I didn't realise there had been software delays.

What efficiency improvements are the facelift Taycan's seeing?

 

[daveo4EV]

The problem, IMO, is that the Macan was designed to come out 2 or 3 years ago. The software really delayed the car but they didn't really update the rest of the car along with the delay. It feels like we got a MY22 Electric Macan with MY24 software.

We're seeing MY25 Taycans have a notable range advantage over the Macan and with better charging tech.

I've honestly contemplated swapping my Macan order for a MY25 Taycan.

I hear you - but the Taycan are over priced IMHO - I seriously considered a GTS CT/ST Taycan - I optioned one in the configurator - and then compared it to my Macan Turbo (which is quicker 0-60 than a GTS) - the Taycan carries an $85k premium vs. my Macan Turbo build (the base price of an entire Macan 4S)…

once you factor in likely depreciation and the initial upfront $85k - even my reduced price sensitivity as a long time Porsche customer - can't over come the cost of such an endeavour.

Having driving a new Taycan TurboS and Taycan Turbo GT and Macan Turbo in the past 3 weeks - back to back one day - the Taycan is undoubtably in a different league than the Macan - but still the price difference is simply eye watering…bu the Taycan is awesome, and the Macan so far is great- the Macan however clearly has the next gen software from Porsche - it's a step up from what's included in the Taycan…

it's a hard call…but the price made it easy for me. Taycan is the better "car" - Macan is the better daily driver in my opinion and more livable.

 

[PanameraFrank]

You're right, the price drives me off the Taycan. My Turbo S sold for 44%!!!! of MSRP at less than 3 years old and sub 20k miles, as a previously CPO'd car. Crazy stuff. And I don't like the new exterior/interior, feels like a downgrade.

But it's a real disappointment seeing the Macan numbers. I figured it would be lower than anticipated when it was revealed to only be 95 kWh usable but I'm pretty shocked by the inefficiency of especially the Turbo cars, especially when we've seen efficiency gains in the Taycan at the same time.

 

[daveo4EV]

You're right, the price drives me off the Taycan. My Turbo S sold for 44%!!!! of MSRP at less than 3 years old and sub 20k miles, as a previously CPO'd car. Crazy stuff. And I don't like the new exterior/interior, feels like a downgrade.

But it's a real disappointment seeing the Macan numbers. I figured it would be lower than anticipated when it was revealed to only be 95 kWh usable but I'm pretty shocked by the inefficiency of especially the Turbo cars, especially when we've seen efficiency gains in the Taycan at the same time.

I hear you - but unless you're road tripping _ALOT_ what I"m doing now isn't how the car will be used for 90% of it's miles - and it has more than enough range for what most people do with a Macan...

also I've realized in the past hour we've climbed up-down all day - nothing "mountainous" - but continuous climbing and re-climbing - driving segment by driving segment - we started at 625 ft in Arkansas - and we've recently touched 7000 ft - so the 900+ mile trend has been to haul a 5000 lbs SUV up 7000 feet at over 75 mph…hmmm maybe the car is actually quite stunning - but not when being asked to fly along over 900 miles in one day with a nete 7000 ft gain in elevation and probably more actual up and down than is represented by the current height we're at…

hmmmmm…

 

[tmrqs]

100%, that’s a ton of climbing… you‘re going to be amazed at the numbers on the way down.

 

[Awaz]

@4sCT21
If you are prioritising range over performance, then the base rear-wheel Macan might be your best bet.
I had the same preference and that is the one on order.
Performance wise, 0-60 in 5.4 is good enough for me, and is the same as in my BMW i4 eDrive 40. And I don't find it inadequate in my i4, in speed limited roads of 20-30mph, mostly. Whereas, torque in base Macan is far more than the i4. So good enough for my needs.

 

[4sCT21]

@4sCT21
If you are prioritising range over performance, then the base rear-wheel Macan might be your best bet.
I had the same preference and that is the one on order.
Performance wise, 0-60 in 5.4 is good enough for me, and is the same as in my BMW i4 eDrive 40. And I don't find it inadequate in my i4, in speed limited roads of 20-30mph, mostly. Whereas, torque in base Macan is far more than the i4. So good enough for my needs.

I went for the "big boy" with my Genesis, that was like being launched on a rollercoaster, but in reality, how many times did i boost it?!

I totally agree with your thoughts. My wife has the base Ioniq 6 and it's more than pokey enough.

With any potential Porsche order I'll have to compromise as I'm not made of money. It's a pure lease, so depreciation doesn't bother me.

I love my C63, it does everything I want, but with the UK government's desire to kill cars, who knows how much money it will lose over the next few years.

 

[4sCT21]

Like has been said above, priority is range vs 0-60.

For comparison Macan / Taycan for me.

Base Macan with Full Leather bordeaux or chalk
Carbon trim
Blue belts
Pan roof
Air suspension
Rear steer
Rear cabin temp
Rear air bags
Frozen blue paint
Heated front + rear seats
Heated windscreen
Adaptive cruise
360 cams
Porsche crest on headrest
Heated gt wheel
Aluminium pedals
Ventilated seats
Black gloss window trim
Matrix lights
Comfort seats

(I think that's it)

Is nearly £300 cheaper a month than a relatively lightly specced RWD Taycan with the following.

Base colour
Base wheels (yuck but needs must)
Adaptive cruise
Aluminium trim
+battery
Pan roof
Side airbags rear
4+1 seats
Comfort seats
Rear axle steer
Grey tint windscreen
Heated wheel
Porsche crest on headrest
Surround view

Taycan I could manage charging at home (most of the time), but thats a whole chunk of money extra for that convenience.

Grrrr sometimes I wish I didn't love cars

 

[daveo4EV]

today is much better limited elevation gains - clear weather - cool temps - and speeds where we're not holding back - current segment doing 33.6 kWh/100 miles…which vs. yesterdays 38-50 kWh/100 miles

this car is totally different range monster on the segment of HWY from Albuqurque to Winslow, AZ…I think 260-270 miles could be done.

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