Latest OutofSpec Dave review - not good

[daveo4EV]

Totally keeping it! We love it

this makes me happy- I love my Turbo…it's exactly what I expected it to be - except for the 9.6 kW charging limit where Porsche lists an 11 kW onboard charger in their North American specifications.

I have to get the windshield washer jets re-aimed, I'm guessing I'll have that taken care of when I have to take it in for the non-OTA headlight recall…

is your Macan part of the headlight recall for brightness?

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[Deleted member 12493]

this makes me happy- I love my Turbo…it's exactly what I expected it to be - expect for the 9.6 kW charging limit where Porsche lists an 11 kW onboard charger in their North American specifications.

I have to get the windshield washer jets re-aimed, I'm guessing I'll have that taken care of when I have to take it in for the non-OTA headlight recall…

is your Macan part of the headlight recall for brightness?

Yes our car has the headlight recall and YES; the windshield fluid comes out super strong and shoots super high although we don’t see the spray on the glass roof

 

[cottony]

except for the 9.6 kW charging limit where Porsche lists an 11 kW onboard charger

I see a lot of complaints about the mis-advertised charging speed but isn’t the difference in power marginal from a home charging perspective? Assuming a 50 mile daily commute at 350 wh/mile, it’s only like a 14 mins difference to fully recharge that trip at 11 kw vs 9.6.

I can’t think of that many scenarios where taking an extra 14 mins at home is a dealbreaker.

I feel like even 5 or 6 kw is sufficient for home charging.

 

[daveo4EV]

I see a lot of complaints about the mis-advertised charging speed but isn’t the difference in power marginal from a home charging perspective? Assuming a 50 mile daily commute at 350 wh/mile, it’s only like a 14 mins difference to fully recharge that trip at 11 kw vs 9.6.

I can’t think of that many scenarios where taking an extra 14 mins at home is a dealbreaker.

I feel like even 5 or 6 kw is sufficient for home charging.

I installed a 60 amp charging system and purchased a 60 amp vehicle - and I can't get a straight answer out of Porsche as to what it's "supposed" to do…it's also the only 9.6 kW vehicle in their EV/Phev fleet…

what does it mean to have an "11 kW onboard charger" listed in specifications and then have an observed limit of 9.6 kW max charge rate?

is this a warranty issue?

 

[DTaxman]

Totally keeping it! We love it

And I think this comment is exactly why people are struggling with your review. A 52 is a failing score.... "Totally keeping it / love it" is a passing with flying colors whole hearted endorsement. I didn't watch your whole video so maybe it was a little tongue and cheek with the negative scores, etc.?? Like all things on the internet, people take things way too seriously, but it is understandable when people are investing so much money on a vehicle that most seem to love. It is deflating to see a rating like that (from someone like you who is passionate and educated about EVs) and actually can get people to rethink the the intelligence of their decision. It "shouldn't" happen. If one loves their car then who cares what someone says on the internet but it's a natural human reaction.

I think this is just the disconnect....

 

[Petzi]

the video is actually informative. the findings:
if you can't or don't want to spend the money on a porsche, buy a tesla. if you're overwhelmed by the complex configuration of the vehicle, buy a tesla.
otherwise enjoy !

 

[50YearsSince]

Poor Dave! I think that a little family dynamics were in play here. Have you ever seen Kathy so quiet? Pardon the armchair analysis but I think Dave realizes Kathy got the better car (and more expensive and prestigious) so he's unconsciously trying to level the playing field. What automotive journal would ever compare a Macan with an M3? Both are great cars for different reasons. It's like comparing a Ferrari to a VW. Macan vs an X might have been more appropriate. Dave is an upstanding guy and just missed being objective with the relative scoring (negative points?), notwithstanding most of his accurate assessments of some of the initial release shortcomings. But even that is a bit unfair because Teslas (et al) have had their first release issues as well. BTW, did you see the video of Kathy tricking Dave and making him sign an agreement that she could keep the car as long as she wanted? Pretty funny stuff....great family! Free Dave! Apologizing in advance.....

 

[SupremeHustle]

The Porsche Macan Electric won the 2024 Top Gear Award for Performance SUV of the Year and it was also named Best EV in MotorWeek's Drivers' Choice Awards. But let's worry about Dave from YouTube's thoughts.

 

[Fun TC Driving]

For the very, very valid reasons posted above, the only way I will watch another OutOfSpec Dave review is if 1) he takes down his video, OR 2) has his wife making a replacement video on her car — with him not even in the background doing the camera work.

While I continue to watch the rest of the OOS team, I just unsubscribed from the OOS Dave channel — at least for now. I hope Kathy put up her own video on HER Macan and how she feels, how she rates it.

 

[dgkhn]

The Porsche Macan Electric won the 2024 Top Gear Award for Performance SUV of the Year and it was also named Best EV in MotorWeek's Drivers' Choice Awards. But let's worry about Dave from YouTube's thoughts.

Oof! Tough audience!

The difference is, though, that @OutofSpecDave is one of us (a Macan 4 owner and a member of this forum), so IMHO what he says might hit a little closer to home.

For the very, very valid reasons posted above, the only way I will watch another OutOfSpec Dave review is if 1) he takes down his video, OR 2) has his wife making a replacement video on her car — with him not even in the background doing the camera work.

While I continue to watch the rest of the OOS team, I just unsubscribed from the OOS Dave channel — at least for now. I hope Kathy put up her own video on HER Macan and how she feels, how she rates it.

Wow, at first I thought you were being tongue in cheek, but now I think you're being at least half serious. Cancel Culture hits the Macan EV forum?

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Each of us can decide what future videos we choose to see. I do not own Macan so his “review” was not personal, not against a purchasing choice I made and thus I got my feelings hurt. As I posted on his video on YT itself, he loves Tesla and probably will be happier when he gets another one again.

 

[tmrqs]

Next up: I'll be reviewing a Rivian R1S and deducting points because it's not small, affordable or cute as Fiat 500 EV.

Quick preview: on my score card, for "Is the brand FIAT?", on a scale of 0 to 5, it gets -10.
What will the end score be??

Stay tuned!

 

[alxman]

Oof! Tough audience!

The difference is, though, that @OutofSpecDave is one of us (a Macan 4 owner and a member of this forum), so IMHO what he says might hit a little closer to home.


Wow, at first I thought you were being tongue in cheek, but now I think you're being at least half serious. Cancel Culture hits the Macan EV forum?

I think @OutofSpecDave is giving his honest opinion and whether we agree or not we don’t have to make it personal. He should feel welcomed in this forum as all vehicle owners have something valuable to contribute.

 

[daveo4EV]

For the very, very valid reasons posted above, the only way I will watch another OutOfSpec Dave review is if 1) he takes down his video, OR 2) has his wife making a replacement video on her car — with him not even in the background doing the camera work.

While I continue to watch the rest of the OOS team, I just unsubscribed from the OOS Dave channel — at least for now. I hope Kathy put up her own video on HER Macan and how she feels, how she rates it.

wow oh wow - tough room…but yeah we could all do with less YT content…

my main "issue" with OOS remains the meandering nature of their content and this overall feeling of "OMG can you please just get to the point" - because of that I rarely watch their videos

the video I do watch from OOS - while I find the length/duration to be horrid - I love the energy, attitude, and generally the accuracy - they seem less "swarmy" than a lot of YT reviewers and more interested in EV forward thinking and evaluation.

I respect OOS, but I'm not their target demographic, and do not appreciate being asked to invest 1+ hour of time to tease out a few minutes worth of insightful content.

the space they are operating in is a demanding business and I have a lot of respect for them being successful in that space, it doesn't happen easily, it takes hard work, a lot of time, and commitment…

however at the end of the day I've grown to despise YT/Instagram//TikTok/Facebook, "influencers", and the general approach of some people feeling they need to document every min of their lives for me/us to view, evaluate, emulate and/or judge…it seems a terrible distraction and there has been loss of focus on other areas that matter…

I'm on a once-in-life-time trip right now - and I'm making a conscious effort to use my phone less, fewer photos, more time just staring at the things I've traveled so far to see…and spending time with the people I'm with, and my wife…I'm having some mild success and my phone battery is ending the day at higher % than it normally does…progress is clear but insufficient so far with my goal of "less tech internet" - but baby steps and reduce, review, and relax…"my phone is not nearly as important as I think it is" is a mantra on full loop in my head while I'm out for the day - I'm trying!!!!

I do not applaude cancel culture - but quixotically I deeply believe we could all use a bit less of this 'stuff" in our lives…I fully support a non-targeted digital detox…

less internet more life and we'd all be better off

so far I'm satisfied with my 2024 Macan EV Turbo but also deeply aware of Porsche's many many many many frustrating short comings with their EV efforts - however…I still can't think of an actually for sale EV product in North America that I'd swap it for - it's the best in the set of choices and trade offs in my opinion for it's "type" of vehicle/market segment…but it's far far far from perfect (vs. my 911 GT3 which is the benchmark for production/market segment perfect and widely recognized in the market and industry as holding that position)…if not a Macan EV then what? Please I've outgrown a Model Y and I've been there done that with a Model X - what else ya got?

@OutofSpecDave please feel welcome and not attacked - we're all here together and just trying to get to "the truth" during this early phase of EV transitions…

@Fun TC Driving I applaud any reduction of internet content consumption to simplify one's life and focus and love your enthusiasm for the Macan - it's one I share with you.

we all need to push Porsche to do better, cause they are not there yet - and also they seem to be losing a bit of faith and reverting to past glory rather than using their position, experience to push for the solutions we need to reduce/remove our ICE historical dependancies…

actual products are very very hard, much harder than they appear…

I saw a baboon today, in real life, just doing his thing (and it was obviously a him, OMG they let it all hang out) around people at a scenic location - it was way better than _ANY_ YT content…

I recomend a really nice drive in the car of your choice from your personal garage with music of your choice to avoid the plague of internet content - that after all is why most of us are here - we love our cars! Let's not lose sight of that and we're fortunate to have these "problems"…

in summary - wow what a review - OMG how did you get there - but honestly we could all use a bit less of this - just chill - make take a nice drive in your Macan to reaffirm the most important review of all - your own personal review…but yeah - let's chill - the internet isn't always a good thing, and it's wrong as often as it's right…some weeks more than others one direction or the other…

go find a baboon or something to contemplate! it will get you out of your head which we could all benefit from…

my $0.02 YMMV

 

[raybey]

Awaz - glad you agree. Seems I may have wasted £ 900 on the Bose. On all my previous cars the reviews of the standard systems (Merc’s, BMW’s a Range Rover and Lexus) all said an upgrade was a must, so I presumed the one in the Macan would be the same

I opted for the Bose and must say I really like it. I cannot obviously compare it to the base system but I can compare it to the Model 3 Long Range. The Bose wins on that account in my opinion. I don't regret choosing it at all

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