Regeneration / Regenerative Braking in Macan EV?

[SergeyIndy]

The “auto” option sounds like a “one pedal” (slow down without pressing the brake pedal) and this is what they told me that will not be in the Macan. The ACC should be/work better than the Taycan (this is what they told me since I had many doubt when I spec’d).

It may sound like a "one pedal" but it is not since the intent of the Regen Auto feature is driving comfort to keep the distance from the car in front without having to push the brake pedal. Regen ON mode engages regen as soon as the brake pedal is released with the intent of slowing the car slightly before approaching a turn for example without having to push the brake pedal. This works so well in the Taycan that I am surprised they do not have it on the Macan EV, as it appears so far.

Porsche has been very clear that their philosophy is NO ONE PEDAL driving to make the driving as natural as possible similar to the ICE car. Heritage is more important than just giving the driver a choice in the PCM and calling it Tesla Drive Mode.

 

[krissrock]

is this not a production model?

it was posted this week... it's not a Turbo, which seems to be what all the preproduction models are

 

[tmrqs]

is this not a production model?

it was posted this week... it's not a Turbo, which seems to be what all the preproduction models are

No idea about this one but there were several pre-production Macan 4 as well, all the videos from Q1/Q2 of the 4 were pre-prod.

 

[Fun TC Driving]

i just took a break from EV driving (our BMW has complete full, regenerative, one-pedal driving which I use 100%) and instead drove our C8 Z06 on a 2,750 mile trip. Within the second braking it was so automatic to move my throttle pedal to the brake. Truly a non issue to me.

Every vehicle has it pros and a couple of things we wish were different but I am not sure that once I drive my Macan for a few miles, I would even wish for one pedal braking. Sure forgot about it that quickly in moving from my iX to my Z06. And upon getting home, loving one pedal again on our iX. Kind of like shifting from an auto trans to a full clutched manual — and back again, e.g., easy peasy.

 

[mikeright]

is this not a production model?
it was posted this week... it's not a Turbo, which seems to be what all the preproduction models are

That video was released this week but was recorded in Nice months ago.
It is a pre-production unit. You can see exactly this car in a video were appears all the units for the press that Porsche prepared in the Nice event.

 

[daveo4EV]

I am curios with no information to confirm or deny if Macan EV has Regen options adjustment similar to Taycan. Specifically, is it possible to configure for each Driving Mode a Regen setting of Off/On/Auto. Every video I have watched simply says that Regen is behind the scenes when going downhill or when braking with no mention of additional adjustment of Regen by the driver.

there is NO _OFF_ for regeneration with the brake pedal - if you don't want regen don't touch the brake pedal - simple - you will always regen when touching the brake pedal - and then the computers blend regen w/friction brakes

the settings on the taycan have to do with "off the accelerator behavior" but no on the brake pedal- i.e. how much regeneration will you get when simply lifting off the accelerator...and it's mild by any stretch as compared to other EV's - Porsche is all in "coasting" if you're off the accelerator and not touching the brake pedal

the brake pedal _ALWAYS_ uses regen to a level the computer's deem necessary vs. pressure and driving dynamics.

I don't know why you'd want to adjust regen - since it's tied to the brake pedal you simply get the amount of decleration requested by the brake pedal - you as the driver need not care if the amount of slowing is via regen or friction brakes.

 

[krissrock]

That video was released this week but was recorded in Nice months ago.
It is a pre-production unit. You can see exactly this car in a video were appears all the units for the press that Porsche prepared in the Nice event.

yeah, i wasn't sure...cuz it seemed like they were in Europe, but she was also saying "welcome to Miami" .... I guess she was refering to the color then... and VERY odd to release that video so late. I guess it makes sense...all the other enfluencers would have been releasing their videos at the same time then...

 

[mikeright]

yeah, i wasn't sure...cuz it seemed like they were in Europe, but she was also saying "welcome to Miami" .... I guess she was refering to the color then... and VERY odd to release that video so late. I guess it makes sense...all the other enfluencers would have been releasing their videos at the same time then...

Yes, that color is "Miami blue"

 

[Daniel]

Fully agree with @daveo4EV

Concerlng the Taycan:

Braking is entirely electric (regeneration), proportional to the pressure on the brake pedal, as long as the deceleration is less than 0.4 g.
In the case of normal use of the car you do not touch the brake pads.

No electric braking to run in the pads when the car is delivered, for ? 100 miles; no Taycan driver agrees on this point; personally, I took possession of my Taycan three years ago, I didn't notice anything and don't remember it .... My dealer is 130 km away from home , a mountainous road.

No electric braking: below 12 km:h
To clean the pads : No electric braking , approximatively, on the first km or on the first 50 m of negative gradient, if the car has been stationary for more than 6 hours.

This is the reason why you must be be very careful at very low speed or during the first braking.
Some reviewers have specified that this inconvenience had been reduced with the Macan

If this is confirmed, it would be a shame if the button on the left of the steering wheel no longer exists with the Macan . It was originally designed to simulate the engine braking of an ice. This regeneration, even weak, was useful with the taycan, in urban driving for example , to anticipate a slowdown or to limit the speed during a long descent

 

[SergeyIndy]

there is NO _OFF_ for regeneration with the brake pedal - if you don't want regen don't touch the brake pedal - simple - you will always regen when touching the brake pedal - and then the computers blend regen w/friction brakes

the settings on the taycan have to do with "off the accelerator behavior" but no on the brake pedal- i.e. how much regeneration will you get when simply lifting off the accelerator...and it's mild by any stretch as compared to other EV's - Porsche is all in "coasting" if you're off the accelerator and not touching the brake pedal

the brake pedal _ALWAYS_ uses regen to a level the computer's deem necessary vs. pressure and driving dynamics.

I don't know why you'd want to adjust regen - since it's tied to the brake pedal you simply get the amount of decleration requested by the brake pedal - you as the driver need not care if the amount of slowing is via regen or friction brakes.

My simple question was about if Macan EV has the same Regen setting adjustment feature that the Taycan that I find helpful in the Taycan. The answer is most likely NO. Therefore, someone with a Taycan who is used to it, will have to change their driving habit, and press the brake pedal to keep distance from the car in front to slow down, for example, where in the Taycan if Regen is in Auto, you do not have to do that. This feature is understood that it is related to what happens when you lift off the accelerator and not with the brake pedal. Also, I have not driven any one pedal driving cars, so Taycan regen feels pretty strong to me, so I keep this feature off most of the time in free-flowing traffic as I prefer coasting and braking as in the ICE car.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Here is what it says regarding Recuperation management feature in the online manual that can be adjusted by the driver. It is understood that these features are in addition to the always on dynamic recuperation management behind the scenes that cannot be controlled by the driver.

Macan EV uses new terminology: Thrust Recuperation.
This confirms to me that there is no Auto Recuperation feature for Macan EV.

Mystery solved. See feature description clips from both manuals below.

Macan EV settings:

Taycan Settings:
Note that there is a misprint in the Meaning section, so this is my translation from real world use:

Off = Coasting when no significant slope
On = Recuperation* is On giving extra deceleration when accelerator is not pressed
Auto = Recuperation* is Dynamic to keep distance from vehicle in front

*Recuperation is only possible if the battery has capacity to store the extra energy

 

[Daniel]

After reading the Macan manual, the button on the left of the steering wheel, dedicated to the "light" regeneration (slow deceleration) is replaced by the "diamond" button (programmable).
Just program it to activate this regeneration mode.
As @SergeyIndy said, no more auto mode

 

[nulled]

They just uploaded a whole video (that shows an Auto mode) https://manual.porsche.com/#/wpi/XAB-2024-20231016-43-RDW-1.0.3/en_GB/video

 

[SergeyIndy]

They just uploaded a whole video (that shows an Auto mode) https://manual.porsche.com/#/wpi/XAB-2024-20231016-43-RDW-1.0.3/en_GB/video

The video does not demonstrate Auto mode, but the icon shown is Recuperation Auto mode from Taycan. Macan EV manual has no mention of Auto mode or a graphic of any icons related to Recuperation modes.

 

[W1NGE]

Fully agree with @daveo4EV

Concerlng the Taycan:

Braking is entirely electric (regeneration), proportional to the pressure on the brake pedal, as long as the deceleration is less than 0.4 g.
In the case of normal use of the car you do not touch the brake pads.

No electric braking to run in the pads when the car is delivered, for ? 100 miles; no Taycan driver agrees on this point; personally, I took possession of my Taycan three years ago, I didn't notice anything and don't remember it .... My dealer is 130 km away from home , a mountainous road.

No electric braking: below 12 km:h
To clean the pads : No electric braking , approximatively, on the first km or on the first 50 m of negative gradient, if the car has been stationary for more than 6 hours.

This is the reason why you must be be very careful at very low speed or during the first braking.
Some reviewers have specified that this inconvenience had been reduced with the Macan

If this is confirmed, it would be a shame if the button on the left of the steering wheel no longer exists with the Macan . It was originally designed to simulate the engine braking of an ice. This regeneration, even weak, was useful with the taycan, in urban driving for example , to anticipate a slowdown or to limit the speed during a long descent

MY25 Taycan has no button on the steering wheel. Now relocated to the PCM only. I've had 2 loaners now and thought I was going mad.

Suspect that the implementation is the same on both EVs.

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