Turbo service and Macan 4 loaner

[daveo4EV]

People mention ride quality difference between 20” and 22” wheels, but what about road noise? Any difference there?

I have the 22” RS Spyder and they are quite bouncy, something I am ok with though. But I also have quite a bit of road noise which is a bit disappointing. I have the acoustic glass, both front and side windows, so the noise seem to be from wheels only. Basically stays the same regardless of speed.

I also have the 20” Macan S as winter wheels but not tried them yet.

so far I haven't noticed anything "different" on the noise front - but I've also been not he phone or listening to music - I'll listen more closely and see if there is a difference I can detect

the loaner appears to lack noise insulation glass - and my turbo has it - so it may not be the "tires" I"m hearing if there is noise...

I'll do my best to evaluate…

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[shawn]

People mention ride quality difference between 20” and 22” wheels, but what about road noise? Any difference there?

I have the 22” RS Spyder and they are quite bouncy, something I am ok with though. But I also have quite a bit of road noise which is a bit disappointing. I have the acoustic glass, both front and side windows, so the noise seem to be from wheels only. Basically stays the same regardless of speed.

I also have the 20” Macan S as winter wheels but not tried them yet.

Do you have summer tires on your 22 or all seasons?

 

[Legis]

Do you have summer tires on your 22 or all seasons?

Summer tires, the Bridgestone Potenza. The winter wheels have the Michelin X-ice.

 

[shawn]

Summer tires, the Bridgestone Potenza. The winter wheels have the Michelin X-ice.

Hum...I understand that summer tires should produce less noise than all-season tires, so, interestingly, you are noticing road noise. I have 20-inch all-seasons and do not hear any road noise. I do not have the thermal glass either.

 

[Diego]

I found a great noise difference inside the cockpit between my 4 (with 21" and acoustic glass) and the loaner (with 22" and without acoustic glass) that suggested me I made the right choice when I spec the acoustic glasses (even if they are expensive if you had to exchange them as I had to...)

 

[Station]

macan has OTA
has not porsche tycan become ev of the year in us?

Ok, my SGN 4s has not delivered (mid August- on a boat) so I'm just basing the lack-of-OTA thing on what other members said in this thread.

Yes on the Taycan and that Car and Driver video on their "Car of the Year" award is excellent. I enjoy that car immensely. I've gotten several as service loaners and I can only imagine how good the GTS and Turbo S are.

On the 20-21-22" wheel matter, I went with 21" Design wheel which I'm mediocre on - and I really don't care for any of the available wheels on the Macan EV in any size, with the exception of the RS Spider wheel. I have that wheel on my Macan GTS in 21" in default satin black and they make the car.

...on the Macan EV I find the RS Spider wheel to be the best, but I tested a demo car with that option and the ride was horrific on our roads. And frankly they just felt too big for the car when driving. I'm not a fan of Dubs - and Porsche keeps increasing the wheel sizes on the Macan each iteration. My 2018 Macan GTS had 20" RS Spiders.

With the lessor-ride comfort and less range, I had to veto the RS - but I really wish they'd come out with a 21" RS Spider wheel . In Vesuvius Grey that wheel is very attractive and makes the car. Especially in Slate Grey Neo, Provence, and Aventurine.

EV's are where smaller rims matter.

 

[PrudentOcean]

Yes, I wish the RS Spyders were available as a 21”, I would have gone with those.

 

[shawn]

I found a great noise difference inside the cockpit between my 4 (with 21" and acoustic glass) and the loaner (with 22" and without acoustic glass) that suggested me I made the right choice when I spec the acoustic glasses (even if they are expensive if you had to exchange them as I had to...)

Good information

 

[shawn]

I found a great noise difference inside the cockpit between my 4 (with 21" and acoustic glass) and the loaner (with 22" and without acoustic glass) that suggested me I made the right choice when I spec the acoustic glasses (even if they are expensive if you had to exchange them as I had to...)

Do you have summer or all season on your 21” wheels?

 

[Diego]

Do you have summer or all season on your 21” wheels?

Summer (Michelin Pilot Sport EV) tires on 21" Macan Design rims and winter (GoodYear ULTRAGRIP) tires on 20" Macan rims.

 

[Yves]

I took the standard 20 inch turbo wheels for winter and the 4s 20 inch as summer on my Turbo … I hate road noise and the comfort of anything bigger than the 20’s, even with air suspension is less then optimal, I even find my 20’s less comfortable then the 22’s on the iX … as a bonus you get lower consumption. The spider wheels, while beautiful on an ICE car look out of place on an EV, but that is personal of course. Now I do agree that the wheel designs for the Macan EV are lackluster at best … Would love to see some nice re-designs on the 20 front …

Audi has some better designs, if only they would have them in black:
https://electrichasgoneaudi.net/models/q6-e-tron/exterior/wheels/

 

[CraigW1]

Whichever tires you have make sure to only inflate to partial load. It will definitely improve the ride quality.

 

[alxman]

I took the standard 20 inch turbo wheels for winter and the 4s 20 inch as summer on my Turbo … I hate road noise and the comfort of anything bigger than the 20’s, even with air suspension is less then optimal, I even find my 20’s less comfortable then the 22’s on the iX … as a bonus you get lower consumption. The spider wheels, while beautiful on an ICE car look out of place on an EV, but that is personal of course. Now I do agree that the wheel designs for the Macan EV are lackluster at best … Would love to see some nice re-designs on the 20 front …

Audi has some better designs, if only they would have them in black:
https://electrichasgoneaudi.net/models/q6-e-tron/exterior/wheels/

You’re right, those wheels by Audi are much nicer! Porsche should fire their wheels designer and contract with the Audi’s team.

 

[Legis]

Whichever tires you have make sure to only inflate to partial load. It will definitely improve the ride quality.

My 22” are 45 psi and the ride is a bit rough, but fun. Anyone actually tried lowering to 39 psi on 22” to compare?

 

[dgkhn]

I've had a reasonably loaded 4 (RWS, HUD, 14 ways, heated windshield, leather package, pseudo matrix headlights, BOSE, rear wiper) with base 20s, since October,and I love it. It's more than quick enough, handles well enough for my needs, rides well and I've been averaging almost 4 mi./ kilowatt hour in warm weather (winter range is another story). MSRP was just over $94k.

I personally have no need for the added performance of the 4S, and at least officially the four has better range which is more important to me. So I would not want to see the four go away in favor of a comparably priced 4S.

If I had to do over again, I'd order almost exactly the same car, with a couple of minor tweaks. I understand Dave's point, but given the ability to order such a range of options anyway, I don't think the four levels of Macan EV is overwhelming. (BTW, I am coming from gen 1 Macan GTS.)

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