Macan Turbo EV real range?

[Deleted member 12479]

Ooops!
Is it not miles in Canada, like in the US?

Nope. Metric system in Canada since the 80's.

 

[Deleted member 12479]

That’s disappointing which 22” inch wheels do you have? The plan for me is to switch to 20” winter tires for the Canadian winter

RS Spyder Design.

 

[TeleSantana]

No, your taycan had regeneration, but regeneration was activated when you brake. The purpose of this ”no regeneration” mode is to allow coasting.

I misspoke. Of course, you are correct in saying that the braking regen is always active, even with the Taycan in coast mode. It is the equivalent of engine braking that I have switched off, with little impact on the range.

On the point of smooth driving, I’m probably one of the slowest Porsche drivers in the country under normal conditions! It’s just driven like a normal car, and the power available isn’t used much at all.

I only received the car this week so have barely driven it. My concern is what the battery was telling me was available on a full charge (262 miles at temperature of 7.5 degrees Celsius) as that is BEFORE you actually drive the thing.

i know it’s only an estimate but I always find that my Taycan is very accurate and I achieve whatever it sayes the estimated range is.

I’m sure I’ll achieve 262 miles estimated on the Macan Turbo but the estimate is way below what I was expecting due to the marketed 322-367 range. It doesn’t differentiate between WLTP or EPA. - it just says range on the website.

When they marketed the Taycan‘s range back in 2020, it could be relied on. From what I’ve discovered now, the marketed range for the Macan EV is pure fantasy.

 

[ketje78]

I did testing last week of measuring consumption at several speeds. It is artificial as it was driving fixed speeds on a straight/flat empty road without any braking/accelerations.

Link: https://www.macanevowners.com/forum...your-macan-ev-performance-📊.17122/post-275492

 

[SGHProductions]

Do you have the trip stats and consumption? In the winter I’d imagine myself never trusting the “range” and just be tracking the consumption.

I did not record all the stats. But the Porsche planning/navigation tool was very accurate. Used Electrify America, Tesla and NY Thruway chargers… all worked very well. I do have the new Pirelli EV winters on the 22” rims.

 

[SergeyIndy]

I misspoke. Of course, you are correct in saying that the braking regen is always active, even with the Taycan in coast mode. It is the equivalent of engine braking that I have switched off, with little impact on the range.

On the point of smooth driving, I’m probably one of the slowest Porsche drivers in the country under normal conditions! It’s just driven like a normal car, and the power available isn’t used much at all.

I only received the car this week so have barely driven it. My concern is what the battery was telling me was available on a full charge (262 miles at temperature of 7.5 degrees Celsius) as that is BEFORE you actually drive the thing.

i know it’s only an estimate but I always find that my Taycan is very accurate and I achieve whatever it sayes the estimated range is.

I’m sure I’ll achieve 262 miles estimated on the Macan Turbo but the estimate is way below what I was expecting due to the marketed 322-367 range. It doesn’t differentiate between WLTP or EPA. - it just says range on the website.

When they marketed the Taycan‘s range back in 2020, it could be relied on. From what I’ve discovered now, the marketed range for the Macan EV is pure fantasy.

This is really concerning story on the range for Macan EV (Turbo or otherwise as front motor is dynamically disengaged when not needed), as you are absolutely right that any marketed range for Taycans, officially EPA was way below real world conditions, and a killer of sales per my dealer. My SA could not understand why everyone overstated the ranges in marketing that could never be achieved. Well, maybe they have heard enough from the dealers and started making some super efficient setups for government testing with smallest aero wheels and best rolling resistance tires going out in perfect ambient temps. Eventually, Porsche had to get an independent company to test Taycan ranges and posted them along the EPA numbers, but I do not think that helped. Many variables go into efficiency and refreshed Taycans are super efficient, with range up 34% with most reporting at least 30% in real world conditions, and charge fast at low temps, but that does not seem to trickle into the Macan EV, with my guess that this will be done at a refresh time.

Original Taycan EPA vs. Real World per Edmunds (225 mi EPA, 286 mi Achieved)

I am not sure I believe this one, but that is what they posted.

Or you can claim whatever you want and sell more cars:

2025 Taycan efficiency improvements example.

 

[CandianPorsche83]

This is really concerning story on the range for Macan EV (Turbo or otherwise as front motor is dynamically disengaged when not needed), as you are absolutely right that any marketed range for Taycans, officially EPA was way below real world conditions, and a killer of sales per my dealer. My SA could not understand why everyone overstated the ranges in marketing that could never be achieved. Well, maybe they have heard enough from the dealers and started making some super efficient setups for government testing with smallest aero wheels and best rolling resistance tires going out in perfect ambient temps. Eventually, Porsche had to get an independent company to test Taycan ranges and posted them along the EPA numbers, but I do not think that helped. Many variables go into efficiency and refreshed Taycans are super efficient, with range up 34% with most reporting at least 30% in real world conditions, and charge fast at low temps, but that does not seem to trickle into the Macan EV, with my guess that this will be done at a refresh time.

Original Taycan EPA vs. Real World per Edmunds (225 mi EPA, 286 mi Achieved)

I am not sure I believe this one, but that is what they posted.

Or you can claim whatever you want and sell more cars:

2025 Taycan efficiency improvements example.

Right but Edmunds also tested the Macan 4 and it was also higher than EPA (per them) … EPA 308 miles vs 352 miles … so not sure the “concern” … I guess point is these tests are all relative and use their own criteria and stipulations anyways … and all it matters is what each owner is expecting vs they are getting

https://www.edmunds.com/car-news/2024-porsche-macan-ev-range-test.html

 

[tmrqs]

I’m sure I’ll achieve 262 miles estimated on the Macan Turbo but the estimate is way below what I was expecting due to the marketed 322-367 range. It doesn’t differentiate between WLTP or EPA. - it just says range on the website.

When they marketed the Taycan‘s range back in 2020, it could be relied on. From what I’ve discovered now, the marketed range for the Macan EV is pure fantasy.

In the UK, WLTP is the norm - as EPA is the norm in the US.
Whenever a range is shown in a market, it follows the norm of said market.

WLTP *is* pure fantasy, the numbers can’t be achieved in everyday driving.

Could (should) Porsche indicate WLTP on that page as well? Sure. It’s present everywhere else on the UK website, but I will agree with that.

But expecting to get WLTP ranges when buying a car… come on.

 

[TeleSantana]

In the UK, WLTP is the norm - as EPA is the norm in the US.
Whenever a range is shown in a market, it follows the norm of said market.

WLTP *is* pure fantasy, the numbers can’t be achieved in everyday driving.

Could (should) Porsche indicate WLTP on that page as well? Sure. It’s present everywhere else on the UK website, but I will agree with that.

But expecting to get WLTP ranges when buying a car… come on.

In the UK, when the Porsche Taycan Turbo was launched in 2020, Porsche primarily marketed the vehicle using the WLTP range figures, as these are the standard for Europe. The Taycan Turbo’s WLTP range was reported between 237 to 280 miles (381 to 450 kilometers), depending on the specific configuration and driving conditions.


I wasn’t aware of whether they used WLTP or EPA but the difference is that the range I got from my new battery was somewhere between 220 miles in WInter to 255 miles in the Summer. That is very close to the range marketed so obviously I was happy enough, and have loved the car from start to finish. I’m not interested in selling it even now.

Roll forward four and half years, and I’ve just taken delivery of a Macan Turbo.

The range is going to be nowhere near what is marketed on the website, so much so that the very large bump in miles I was expecting over my Taycan is now going to be very modest.

I‘m the same driver using both cars, driving in the same manner.

The simple truth is that I wouldn’t have bought the Macan Turbo if it wasn’t going to give me anyhring like the marketed range on the website.

I can understand why buyers in the US are perfectly happy as the marketed range is much lower.

I think people in the UK are going to have an issue.

 

[Awaz]

@TeleSantana

Yes, I too am disappointed with the range. Porsche, based on Taycan experience, were well reputed to underestimate their range, compared to others like Tesla who overestimated.
With Macan they seemed to have overestimated when they kept saying their range in all Macan variants “will be at least 300 miles”
However, let's wait till summer and more miles added on to make a final judgement.

 

[W1NGE]

I misspoke. Of course, you are correct in saying that the braking regen is always active, even with the Taycan in coast mode. It is the equivalent of engine braking that I have switched off, with little impact on the range.

On the point of smooth driving, I’m probably one of the slowest Porsche drivers in the country under normal conditions! It’s just driven like a normal car, and the power available isn’t used much at all.

I only received the car this week so have barely driven it. My concern is what the battery was telling me was available on a full charge (262 miles at temperature of 7.5 degrees Celsius) as that is BEFORE you actually drive the thing.

i know it’s only an estimate but I always find that my Taycan is very accurate and I achieve whatever it sayes the estimated range is.

I’m sure I’ll achieve 262 miles estimated on the Macan Turbo but the estimate is way below what I was expecting due to the marketed 322-367 range. It doesn’t differentiate between WLTP or EPA. - it just says range on the website.

When they marketed the Taycan‘s range back in 2020, it could be relied on. From what I’ve discovered now, the marketed range for the Macan EV is pure fantasy.

WLTP is stated. EPA is non European.

WLTP / EPA is a useless metric and I wish manufacturers stop quoting the fairytale that it is.


To get 300 miles you'll need the base RWD Macan on the smallest wheels.

As you will know the range will drop significantly when cold.

 

[TeleSantana]

WLTP / EPA is a useless metric and I wish manufacturers stop quoting the fairytale that it is.


To get 300 miles you'll need the base RWD Macan on the smallest wheels.

As you will know the range will drop significantly when cold.

I know this but I also have a Taycan that gives mileage close to the one that was used for marketing. Macan Turbo EV gets nowhere near.

Now I’m driving it, I also find that the even the remaining range shown can’t be relied on very well, whereas it can be on my Taycan.

(I’m aware evrything depends on outside temperature, speed of travel, driving smoothly, etc.. All of those things apply to my Taycan but all range comparable are much better in a 2020 car).

 

[SergeyIndy]

I know this but I also have a Taycan that gives mileage close to the one that was used for marketing. Macan Turbo EV gets nowhere near.

Now I’m driving it, I also find that the even the remaining range shown can’t be relied on very well, whereas it can be on my Taycan.

(I’m aware evrything depends on outside temperature, speed of travel, driving smoothly, etc.. All of those things apply to my Taycan but all range comparable are much better in a 2020 car).

I am kind of shocked by what you are saying, especially, you have Taycan experience for context.

Also, a fellow original Taycan owner happy with the range expectations as they were presented and always exceeded in the real world. As a potential Macan EV buyer, glued to the release of Macan EV with ongoing expectations that 300 miles is easily achievable in the prototypes when Kyle drove it, but I noticed that the Porsche rep with him, said zero words about range expectations, all he was saying we have as big of a battery as we could get and cd is .25, and so on.

I do not think we need to wait for summer to find out. We need a poll of current owners to report how many miles they are getting in warmer climates with what setup and see if anyone exceeded 300 miles in the real world.

 

[tmrqs]

I do not think we need to wait for summer to find out. We need a poll of current owners to report how many miles they are getting in warmer climates with what setup and see if anyone exceeded 300 miles in the real world.

Exceed 300 miles under what conditions?

Hypermiling in perfect weather conditions with 20” wheels like Kyle/Edmunds did in their first range video?
Or gunning a Turbo (sorry, “driving spiritedly”) on 22” in less than ideal conditions?

Hoping for any daily (spirited?) driver on this board to hit 300 miles is a pipe dream - we all know the results of the poll already.

Kyle did close to hypermiling (well almost, would have had to go at around 55mph I guess) on a Turbo at altitude with 22” and got slightly above 290 miles.

But by all means, start a poll.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Exceed 300 miles under what conditions?

Hypermiling in perfect weather conditions with 20” wheels like Kyle/Edmunds did in their first range video?
Or gunning a Turbo (sorry, “driving spiritedly”) on 22” in less than ideal conditions?

Hoping for any daily (spirited?) driver on this board to hit 300 miles is a pipe dream - we all know the results of the poll already.

Kyle did close to hypermiling (well almost, would have had to go at around 55mph I guess) on a Turbo at altitude with 22” and got slightly above 290 miles.

But by all means, start a poll.

I agree, based on what we know, 300 miles is not going to happen. Then the pole at least will tell us what is realistic in different use cases so any potential buyers can take that into consideration.

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