New VR28.13 SQ4 update

[Petzi]

matc21:
„I got this already half a year ago, it’s disappointing but well, just don’t buy another Porsche…no surprise their sales are plummeting.“

why is it „disappointing“ that you get no updates that you have not paid for? why should this be the reason for bad sales? this is porsche policy for as far I can remember.

„do not buy another porsche“ what is your suggestion ?

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[TomekGnomek]

They advertise OTA updates for the newest Taycans:
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/2026/products/porsche-model-year-innovations-taycan-42641.html

They advertised OTA updates for the new Macan.

I think they know times when you had to buy map updates on expensive CD are in fact over but are clearly having a hard time delivering on that.

 

[craz8]

Updates for the infotainment system in the Taycan can now be downloaded entirely over the air (OTA)

This is very clear that this is simply updates to the PCM. I've received some of those for the Macan - yay, a YouTube update!

My recent full reset also caused a message to popup about navigation map updates being available.

Edit: I needed to update my Wifi settings, and then reinstall some apps. That's when I saw these 2 new OTA updates! The future is here!

 

[MatC21]

matc21:
„I got this already half a year ago, it’s disappointing but well, just don’t buy another Porsche…no surprise their sales are plummeting.“

why is it „disappointing“ that you get no updates that you have not paid for? why should this be the reason for bad sales? this is porsche policy for as far I can remember.

„do not buy another porsche“ what is your suggestion ?

Call me naive then. When I read the announcement that the Macan can get OTA Updates I thought that over time they will add stability improvement and minor convenience features. Like filtering charging stations on long trips.
Instead we are stuck on an old platform that deviates from the latest models and Porsche is not even able to fix the stability issues on some Macans (mine is stable though).
And for each update I have to bring it to the workshop. The OTA Feature in the myPorsche App is there since Day 1 but has never worked - their website still says Macan can do OTA including a Video which so far has never happened.

That is disappointing for me (some might call it false advertising) cause almost every other brand does it. And you don‘t even have to look at Tesla. Check Mercedes and BMW, they are improving their iX3 and GLC continuously and OTA.

I did not expect to get major new features like virtual shifting or new camera features even. But at least Porsche should make the car stable and commit to support it for many years. Instead we get a dead platform and are told to buy the new model.

And since you are right, this is Porsche policy, I most likely won‘t buy another daily Porsche.
Go to the Taycan forum. You will find dozens of people who wont be getting another Taycan due to the bad experiences with its Software and Hardware. And is the new Taycan selling well? Why do you think that is the case?

 

[Petzi]

@MatC21 : still did not name which car he would rather buy…

It’s not true that other car brands “deliver” features —whether via OTA or not. BMW and Mercedes launch new models with new features every six months. Tesla, too, only delivers what you originally bought and paid for—sometimes years later, sometimes never. and drive a tesla and tell me it is as good.

What’s most annoying is all the whining about the supposedly high price. People are cheerfully comparing apples to oranges here.

 

[byebye]

I totally agree with you @MatC21

Macans are nice to drive? Yes!
Porsche has roots and history? Obviously!
Porsche were almost affordable sport cars, and turns to be a brand with very expensive SUV branded as sport cars? Apparently
etc

but, the industry has changed, the technologies and customers expectations also.

why many Porsche loyalists oppose here in this forum "nice driving" and "2026 mainstream tech"?
Both are certainly possible, and in 2026, needed (look at the selling figures, very alarming). To do so, you need to divert some revenues to invest, and remember the almost end of Porsche 30 years ago.

I stand with the idea that no other car drives like a Porsche (for now...), but I'm not happy with a stucked in the past car thanks to dumb Porsche policy and bad engineering.

In the meantime , when I take a look at the notice related to VR28.13 SQ4, I understand why people don't want software updates coming from Porsche: it's like dynamite, too dangerous to handle

 

[Somehow]

Everyone who grew up playing video games knows, that things like OTA updates don't improve customer experiences. Companies use these things to release half finished products and for monetization. This is not just Porsche, this is most car companies. If you want to know more about the future development, just have a look at the video games industry. It's 5-10 years ahead in development regarding this trend.

 

[Degenatron]

Call me naive then. When I read the announcement that the Macan can get OTA Updates I thought that over time they will add stability improvement and minor convenience features. Like filtering charging stations on long trips.
Instead we are stuck on an old platform that deviates from the latest models and Porsche is not even able to fix the stability issues on some Macans (mine is stable though).
And for each update I have to bring it to the workshop. The OTA Feature in the myPorsche App is there since Day 1 but has never worked - their website still says Macan can do OTA including a Video which so far has never happened.

That is disappointing for me (some might call it false advertising) cause almost every other brand does it. And you don‘t even have to look at Tesla. Check Mercedes and BMW, they are improving their iX3 and GLC continuously and OTA.

I did not expect to get major new features like virtual shifting or new camera features even. But at least Porsche should make the car stable and commit to support it for many years. Instead we get a dead platform and are told to buy the new model.

And since you are right, this is Porsche policy, I most likely won‘t buy another daily Porsche.
Go to the Taycan forum. You will find dozens of people who wont be getting another Taycan due to the bad experiences with its Software and Hardware. And is the new Taycan selling well? Why do you think that is the case?

I would further add that mainstream manufacturers have been doing OTA for longer than that, look at BMW i4, iX, Ford Mach-E. These are OLD cars with better support.

Heck, look inside the VW group: the ID7 which also has many shared features with Macan such as the HUD & parking system - they delivered OTA and added new features such as the remote/trained parking and updated the HUD with integrated navigation animations for Carplay/AA, for free.

However Porsche/Audi early PPE cars - left for dead

 

[Petzi]

I would further add that mainstream manufacturers have been doing OTA for longer than that, look at BMW i4, iX, Ford Mach-E. These are OLD cars with better support.

Heck, look inside the VW group: the ID7 which also has many shared features with Macan such as the HUD & parking system - they delivered OTA and added new features such as the remote/trained parking and updated the HUD with integrated navigation animations for Carplay/AA, for free.

However Porsche/Audi early PPE cars - left for dead

Why are some people here so fixated on OTA? The PPE is very complicated—what's so bad about taking the car to a professional shop, where they'll check everything, and driving another Porsche for free while you wait?
@Degenatron: I'm sure you can drive a replacement ID.7, too. Then you'll see the difference

 

[TomekGnomek]

Why are some people here so fixated on OTA?

My guess one of the reasons is the software is half baked and needs updates to work properly.
IF they delivered a reliable platform the OTA case would not be as relevant.
Other then that - EVs are supposed to be software defined and that includes OTA.
This seems to be the standard on the market.
Cars become more and more connected to smartphones (carplay, spotify, porsche app) and this also means updates are important - look at the new options available on the porsche mobile app which are not supported by cars. It's a mess and it will contribute to already high depreciation.

 

[Petzi]

My guess one of the reasons is the software is half baked and needs updates to work properly.
IF they delivered a reliable platform the OTA case would not be as relevant.
Other then that - EVs are supposed to be software defined and that includes OTA.
This seems to be the standard on the market.
Cars become more and more connected to smartphones (carplay, spotify, porsche app) and this also means updates are important - look at the new options available on the porsche mobile app which are not supported by cars. It's a mess.

if you prefer "software defined " you need an other car.

 

[MatC21]

@MatC21 : still did not name which car he would rather buy…

It’s not true that other car brands “deliver” features —whether via OTA or not. BMW and Mercedes launch new models with new features every six months. Tesla, too, only delivers what you originally bought and paid for—sometimes years later, sometimes never. and drive a tesla and tell me it is as good. I am happy with all its „car properties“. But I don’t understand why I would not be allowed to complain.

What’s most annoying is all the whining about the supposedly high price. People are cheerfully comparing apples to oranges here.

My next car will potentially be a i3 M60 or an M3 Electric. Not going to replace the Macan soon though. I like the Macan for its car features, I am just not happy with the software.

 

[Somehow]

I would further add that mainstream manufacturers have been doing OTA for longer than that, look at BMW i4, iX, Ford Mach-E. These are OLD cars with better support.

Heck, look inside the VW group: the ID7 which also has many shared features with Macan such as the HUD & parking system - they delivered OTA and added new features such as the remote/trained parking and updated the HUD with integrated navigation animations for Carplay/AA, for free.

However Porsche/Audi early PPE cars - left for dead

BMW has changed their platform from Idrive 8 to 8.5 to 9 within just a very few years. My current X1 is was delivered with 8.0 and is no longer really supported by BMW despite being just 3 years old, because they changed to 8.5 just months after and their future main platform being 9, which has also already been introduced

 

[ChrisFromUK]

Why are some people here so fixated on OTA? The PPE is very complicated—what's so bad about taking the car to a professional shop, where they'll check everything, and driving another Porsche for free while you wait?
@Degenatron: I'm sure you can drive a replacement ID.7, too. Then you'll see the difference

There's nothing inherently wrong with taking it into Porsche to be updated.

But the cost of supporting that would cost Porsche a fortune - which provides a massive disincentive to providing updates at all.

And so we arrive at the current state were MY24/25 cars won't get MY26 software features and even bug fixes are mostly only when you complain and are not proactively provided.

The reality of OTA isn't saving the customer of a dealer visit but a vast cost saving for manufacturers which allows them to continue to improve already delivered cars because the cost of doing so is relatively small.

 

[Petzi]

There's nothing inherently wrong with taking it into Porsche to be updated.

But the cost of supporting that would cost Porsche a fortune - which provides a massive disincentive to providing updates at all.

And so we arrive at the current state were MY24/25 cars won't get MY26 software features and even bug fixes are mostly only when you complain and are not proactively provided.

The reality of OTA isn't saving the customer of a dealer visit but a vast cost saving for manufacturers which allows them to continue to improve already delivered cars because the cost of doing so is relatively small.

you should tell them. i am sure they did not consider and will reward you for your input.

Joking aside, you are mixing up everything. porsche is obviously working on upgrades of the operating system for 24/25 cars and a big upgrade is imminent. they just want to serve the cars with problems first.

I am following car tests very closely. I do not know of one brand that uses ota to implement new versions of operating system. may be they call it so, but it cant be true. it just does not work. look at apple or windows. and those are not "software oriented " they are software only. still you have to buy their software again and again. and other software and hardware.

that is called progress. this will be the situation with ev cars for many years to come. new software needs new hardware.

i can only talk about my own experience with two macan. i love to drive it, the operating system for the car itself (brakes, steering, suspension and consumption) is among top three. could self parking and innodrive be better? of course! but i would never prefer one of the very few cars that are really better in this.

anyway there is absolutely no car on the market that offers upgrades that could make it timeless. in 2 years all of them will be "old". there is no update, ota or not that could fix this.

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