For those of you with Rear Wheel steering... happy with it?

[Yves]

Not to get off topic from Rear Axle Steering but according to online sources: “The WLTP range of the Porsche Macan 4S and Turbo are often reported as the same because they share the same electric motor and battery system, with the primary difference being the power output management, which means the Turbo may utilize more power for quicker acceleration but doesn't necessarily impact the overall range significantly in standard driving conditions.

Sure? I thought the Turbo had a bigger engine and all the others were software tuned or inverter … but I’m not sure …

 

[krissrock]

when i asked this of my SA a while back, he was under the impression that they all had different motors. we know that this can controlled via software, but i'm doubtful that's the case.
Why put more copper in the electric motor than ppl are paying for...And I also think, if the motors were the same, but power mgmt was different, that the Range on the 4S would be greater than the turbo.... just my guess

 

[shawn]

I originally opted out but included it before freeze date. I do notice it just driving around tight curves. Feels like the car is going where you want is more rapidly or effortlessly. It comes with power steering plus and I do notice it in a parking lot. Also I noticed in on the highway changing lanes on heavy rain. it honestly felt magical, a level of stability I have never had in a car. I have never owned a car with RAS and before and was worried that it might be just another thing to fail or require extra $$ for maintenance but if you want that little extra special difference then it’s worth it. I don’t think it is a must have but because it enhances the drive experience at least what I have hadI think it’s one of the best options to get.

 

[SergeyIndy]

Strong case for RWS option.

The second video by Kris Rifa confirming my test drive experience of the Macan 4 with Air Suspension standard in the US but without RWS option on 22-inch wheels, which is driving around curves and round abouts felt lumpy with obvious weight shifting from side to side and to me a lot of lean into the corner. I was comparing it to Macan GTS (21-inch wheels and PTV+) with exceptional sporty corner handling ability and Macan 4 drive was unexpected given lower center of gravity. I am yet to drive one with 21-inch wheels to compare but finding an example to test drive with RWS will probably be close to impossible.

At 10:35 point in this video.

 

[PrudentOcean]

The Macan, Macan 4 and Macan 4S share the same rear motor. The Macan Turbo has a larger rear motor.

 

[SergeyIndy]

The Macan, Macan 4 and Macan 4S share the same rear motor. The Macan Turbo has a larger rear motor.

#1. You are not correct with your motor sizes statement, unless you meant the front motors are the same, please see motor specs below.

RWD: Front: No Motor, Rear: 210/200
4: Front: 210/100, Rear: 210/200
4S: Front: 210/100, Rear: 230/150
Turbo: 210/100, Rear: 230/210

#2. What does it matter that rear motors are different when we are talking about cornering and sporty handling? My point is that if no RWS then 22-inch wheel setup is not good for sporty handling.

 

[krissrock]

Strong case for RWS option.

The second video by Kris Rifa confirming my test drive experience of the Macan 4 without RWS option on 22-inch wheels, which is driving around curves and round abouts felt lumpy with obvious weight shifting from side to side and to me a lot of lean into the corner. I was comparing it to Macan GTS (21-inch wheels and PTV+) with exceptional sporty corner handling ability and Macan 4 drive was unexpected given lower center of gravity. I am yet to drive one with 21-inch wheels to compare but finding an example to test drive with RWS will probably be close to impossible.

At 10:35 point in this video.

mmm I kinda take his stuff with a grain of salt because he seems to be incredibly biased toward the Taycan!!
but i don't remember if that 4 he test drove was on springs vs air since that stuff isn't standard in Europe. When i tested without rear steer, i didn't notice any heaviness to it... maybe just a wiggle over bumps, which is probably due more so to the short wheelbase and narrower wheels.
But he sings the praises of RWS'ing... which i optioned, so i'm looking fwd to experiencing it

 

[platypus]

I drove a Macan ICE with and without PTV+, I didn't think it was easy to notice the difference, probably because I rarely pushed the car to the point where it would matter.

Rear-wheel steering has been totally different in my own experience. At low speed, the car pivots more easily around its center, so the turn-in does feel more aggressive (less lumpy), to the point where it surprised me a few times. At high speed, the rear wheels turning in the same direction helps the car glide with less rotation (less body roll). So he's actually describing what RWS does

 

[PrudentOcean]

#2. What does it matter that rear motors are different when we are talking about cornering and sporty handling? My point is that if no RWS then 22-inch wheel setup is not good for sporty handling.

I replied to the comments about the motors a couple of the messages up.

 

[daveo4EV]

it was good today during a particular U-turn - turning radius was super tight and it made me happy!

other than that it's mostly "working in the background" - but occasionally you bust out a turn…and remember it's awesome.

 

[AEY]

I’m driving my Macan Turbo for a month now, and frankly I was a bit disappointed with the RAS. It is more difficult (more manoeuvres) to enter into my garage. My disappointment is based on my comparison with my previous X3 having almost the same size.

Obviously, the RAS is not active when manoeuvring at very slow speed. I went through all the information sources the get confirmation of this observation. Nothing about RAS of Macan EV on the printed and digital user manual, nothing on the web & YouTube etc. But reviews of the RAS on the Taycan and 911 clearly show the rear axle turning when parking the car at very slow speed. I’ve asked this question to my dealer and the only answer was how great the RAS is. Nothing about it’s functioning at very low speed.

I may agree that this can be a nice option when driving in the city, country roads or on the motorway, but I don‘t see it‘s interest if you cannot get the benefit of the RAS when parking at low speed.

Any comment ? Would appreciate your input/experience especially with regard to a specific low speed test drive of the RAS on the Macan EV.

 

[CandianPorsche83]

I’m driving my Macan Turbo for a month now, and frankly I was a bit disappointed with the RAS. It is more difficult (more manoeuvres) to enter into my garage. My disappointment is based on my comparison with my previous X3 having almost the same size.

Obviously, the RAS is not active when manoeuvring at very slow speed. I went through all the information sources the get confirmation of this observation. Nothing about RAS of Macan EV on the printed and digital user manual, nothing on the web & YouTube etc. But reviews of the RAS on the Taycan and 911 clearly show the rear axle turning when parking the car at very slow speed. I’ve asked this question to my dealer and the only answer was how great the RAS is. Nothing about it’s functioning at very low speed.

I may agree that this can be a nice option when driving in the city, country roads or on the motorway, but I don‘t see it‘s interest if you cannot get the benefit of the RAS when parking at low speed.

Any comment ? Would appreciate your input/experience especially with regard to a specific low speed test drive of the RAS on the Macan EV.

Interesting. Parking was also one of the reason I optioned it. It clearly states that it works at “Low speed” but I guess you are saying it doesn’t at “very low speed”.

Would love to hear from the members who have it as well.

 

[AEY]

Interesting. Parking was also one of the reason I optioned it. It clearly states that it works at “Low speed” but I guess you are saying it doesn’t at “very low speed”.

Would love to hear from the members who have it as well.

Indeed, I meant "very low speed" i.e. when you manoeuvre at 2-3 km/h while entering into a parking slot (= moving the car without pressing the accelerator/crawling). I've checked while being outside and observing the wheels as my wife was getting out of the garage. No rear steering movement at all (although you could hear some mechanical noises from the rear axle) ! If you drive faster it works, but nobody parks a car back and forth at 10km/h, right ?

Where did you see the statement saying that it works at low speed ?

 

[bbmertz]

Here’s an informative article about RAS confirming that it does work at low speeds:
https://www.pca.org/news/if-the-por...-with-rear-axle-steering-get-it-pca-tech-tips

 

[CandianPorsche83]

Indeed, I meant "very low speed" i.e. when you manoeuvre at 2-3 km/h while entering into a parking slot (= moving the car without pressing the accelerator/crawling). I've checked while being outside and observing the wheels as my wife was getting out of the garage. No rear steering movement at all (although you could hear some mechanical noises from the rear axle) ! If you drive faster it works, but nobody parks a car back and forth at 10km/h, right ?

Where did you see the statement saying that it works at low speed ?

On the configurator

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