Real consumption / range / efficiency thread … post your Macan EV performance 📊

[Yves]

I have just ordered a 4 so have no real experience of the car. One question I have is - when I test drove a 4 the range increased from 250 to 300 when I put the ac / heating on Eco Plus. I looked for this function as my Lexus RZ is exactly the same. My question is - what ac / heating do you think the majority of users have on when reporting actual range achieved and is the say 50 mile improvement real ?
The RZ has radiant heaters and using those with heated seats the Eco heating is more than enough - is the Eco Plus in the Macan ok for the relatively mild weather we have in the UK - that said it’s going to -3c this weekend.
I would appreciate your thoughts on this.

Eco plus is just circulation with AC so the windows do not fog up, it’s no heating in my experience …

 

[Wivenhoe]

Yves- thanks for that so if you need heat the range dives by about 50 miles. If that is the case then I may rethink getting the Macan as Lexus solved this on the RZ so on Eco heating only reduces range by about 10 miles. Thanks again

 

[Yves]

Yves- thanks for that so if you need heat the range dives by about 50 miles. If that is the case then I may rethink getting the Macan as Lexus solved this on the RZ so on Eco heating only reduces range by about 10 miles. Thanks again

Only on cold days … AC does not take that much range away and it’s identical on my iX … also take into account this is an estimation, also how hot you set it has an impact …

 

[Yves]

Tip for range extension. Anyway it seems to work for me, I think we can all agree coasting is the most efficient way to drive …
So I was annoyed with the small regen you had when taking your food off the accelerator … it seems there is an option thrust recuperation … @CandianPorsche83 pointed that out …
I have a drive of 50km mix of highway and b roads … turning thrust recuperation lowered consumption from 21.4kwh/100km to 20.2kwh/100km, not scientifically meaningful, but hey if it works …
Anyway I prefer to drive this way …

 

[Fun TC Driving]

Exactly as Yves noted, that especially for one re-set, the results are predictive but by what percent accuracy. There is reasons that mile prediction on all electric brand forums is called a GOM, e.g., Guess-O-Meter — especially for single charge/setting. Do it twenty times and you would get some somewhat accurate prediction as to how much more range one would get on a Macan EV using only seating and/or for the driver steering wheel heater. I would greatly doubt after you did this twenty times if you did not conclude Yves estimate of abut ten miles extra range would be much closer to reality. But then again, in comparison what did one set the interior cabin temp through its regular heating at, e.g., 72 F or 65F or 55F or not at all (or Celsius equivalents). And what was the outside temperature during those twenty days.

But again for those of us who have owned/operated BEV’s for a while, we have learned that other than for the rare person who is a salesperson or equivalebtwho has a 150+ mile daily trip, or is routinely doing road trips, is range more than something you ignore 19 days out of 20 IF you can charge up in your garage at night (or at work) easily. As an example Plenty owned and loved their first generation Taycans with their candidly “marginal” or less than that range — because again range on an EV for 95% of owners is eithera remote consideration daily or is completely ignored.

 

[EmGTS]

I received my car yesterday, I'm very happy with it, much better than my EQE 43 AMG especially regarding to range, comfort and quality.

Car (Rear/4/4S/Turbo): Macan Turbo
Tyre Size: 21" rims with Michelin winter
Temperature (F/C): from -3,5 to -1
Wind Conditions No/Headwind/Tailwind: Headwind
Road conditions Wet/Dry: wet
City/Highway: 40km on local/city, 69km on highways with speed around 140km/h
Average Speed (km/h Miles/h): 43 km/h
Average consumption (kWh/100km kWh/mile): 29,1 kWh/100 km, but still going down as regen kicked in after 47km's
Predicted Range at 100%: not checked
Real Range at 100%: N.A.

Get home at 58% with predicted range 261km
Hopefully consumption will go down in next few days.

 

[PanameraFrank]

4S, 20" wheels. Vancouver BC to Seattle. 37 F to start, 46 to end. Very thick fog for 1/3rd of the drive. Mostly 74 & 80 mph but traffic at the end slowed the average speed. Climate on.

Also forgot to lower the car so about 1/3rd was in normal ride height. Not bad!

 

[PanameraFrank]

4S 20" wheels Seattle to Vancouver. Stretches of 82 mph and 76 mph. Some random slowdowns.

 

[CandianPorsche83]

4S 20" wheels Seattle to Vancouver. Stretches of 82 mph and 76 mph. Some random slowdowns.

Thanks for these! Generally my longest and most frequent road trip is Vancouver to Seattle so very glad to hear that there doesn’t appear to be much range issues in December!

Is your recuperation on or are you coasting mostly?

Thanks

 

[PanameraFrank]

No recup ever for me.

Don't do anything special. I usually heat with climate as necessary then switch to Eco Plus, as I generally like climate on low. Not really doing it for range savings.

I'm always at 80 or 82 in the 70 zones unless blocked by traffic. Always 74 or 76 in the 60 zones.

 

[Wivenhoe]

Do you get any heat or aircon with Eco Plus - I read on here that it closes the fan off and vents closed but the dealer has told me it just reduces the heat or aircon, not turn it off. That struck me as sensible as if all it did was switch it off you could do that anyway. The reason I ask is when I had a demo car I turned Eco Plus on and the range increased by 40 miles. I’m coming from a Lexus RZ450e and the Eco setting on the heat does reduce the output but increases the range by up to 40 miles.

 

[PanameraFrank]

Pretty rough one today.

Vancouver BC to Seattle. 4S 20" wheels. AC on 71 degrees. Normal & low.

Right around freezing and portions of thick fog. Very poor results.

 

[Barry41561]

So, I had too much time on my hands and I decided to to some "structured testing" on this. I already had collated data from a few road trips where I could drive uninterrupted on flat area (there is always a minimal amount of up and down) on highways for 10's of kilometers at 140km/h and 160km/h. I now did the same on a 15km straight B-road with max speed 120km/h - I tested at 80, 100 and 120km/h.

Method: cruise control on, same start and finish point at constant speed without any acceleration or braking (so no regen), reset the "trip since" data both in the outgoing and returning leg and average both.

Car: Macan EV Turbo, 22" Exclusive Design Wheels, Offroad package
Environmental parameters: Sunset, 24degC, no wind

Below are the graphs in metric and imperial system:

I also created the below graph, using the 288mi (463km) EPA rated range for a Turbo as 100-0% run (so 95kWh consumption) and calling that 100% efficiency. The graph plots the efficiency compared to EPA range at various speeds:

I know this driving style is artificial as I noticed that the moment you touch your brake and regen efficiency goes up dramatically. It's only aimed to try to measure the impact of speed on range.

This is GREAT - but - I'm wondering if anyone has done such a chart for Macan EV with the 20' wheels?

 

[Throb]

One-week-old Macan Turbo here, on 22" RS Spyder rims.

I did a 1,700km trip a few days ago during some, admittedly, pretty cold weather (temperatures continuously between -3 degrees Celsius and +1 degree Celsius). It was 99% motorway driving at 120km/h (75mph).

The figures are calculated based on percentage of battery used to calculate consumption and projected range. Obviously the actual consumption is slightly worse due to heat loss when charging.

Leg 1
258.7 km (160.7 miles)
30.1 kWh/100km (2.06 miles/kWh)
Range: 315.5 km (196.0 miles)

Leg 2
68.8 km (42.8 miles)
27.6 kWh/100km (2.25 miles/kWh)
Range: 344.0 km (213.8 miles)

Leg 3
286.4 km (178.0 miles)
28.2 kWh/100km (2.20 miles/kWh)
Range: 336.9 km (209.3 miles)

Leg 4
190.2 km (118.2 miles)
28.0 kWh/100km (2.22 miles/kWh)
Range: 339.6 km (211.0 miles)

Leg 5
102.1 km (63.4 miles)
27.0 kWh/100km (2.30 miles/kWh)
Range: 352.1 km (218.8 miles)

Leg 6
236.6 km (147.0 miles)
29.7 kWh/100km (2.09 miles/kWh)
Range: 319.7 km (198.7 miles)

Leg 7
197.8 km (122.9 miles)
30.7 kWh/100km (2.02 miles/kWh)
Range: 309.1 km (192.1 miles)

Leg 8
78.5 km (48.8 miles)
27.8 kWh/100km (2.24 miles/kWh)
Range: 341.3 km (212.1 miles)

Leg 9
160.6 km (99.8 miles)
29.6 kWh/100km (2.10 miles/kWh)
Range: 321.2 km (199.6 miles)


One thing I'd seen in videos is that the trip computer didn't make a lot of sense, in that the consumption and range was inaccurate and was acting as if the 95 kWh useable was in fact more like 90 kWh or less. However, I found the trip computer to be extremely accurate and the displayed efficiency and remaining range was within 0.1 kWh/100km of my calculated efficiency.

 

[cottony]

One-week-old Macan Turbo here, on 22" RS Spyder rims.

I did a 1,700km trip a few days ago during some, admittedly, pretty cold weather (temperatures continuously between -3 degrees Celsius and +1 degree Celsius). It was 99% motorway driving at 120km/h (75mph).

The figures are calculated based on percentage of battery used to calculate consumption and projected range. Obviously the actual consumption is slightly worse due to heat loss when charging.

Leg 1
258.7 km (160.7 miles)
30.1 kWh/100km (2.06 miles/kWh)
Range: 315.5 km (196.0 miles)

Leg 2
68.8 km (42.8 miles)
27.6 kWh/100km (2.25 miles/kWh)
Range: 344.0 km (213.8 miles)

Leg 3
286.4 km (178.0 miles)
28.2 kWh/100km (2.20 miles/kWh)
Range: 336.9 km (209.3 miles)

Leg 4
190.2 km (118.2 miles)
28.0 kWh/100km (2.22 miles/kWh)
Range: 339.6 km (211.0 miles)

Leg 5
102.1 km (63.4 miles)
27.0 kWh/100km (2.30 miles/kWh)
Range: 352.1 km (218.8 miles)

Leg 6
236.6 km (147.0 miles)
29.7 kWh/100km (2.09 miles/kWh)
Range: 319.7 km (198.7 miles)

Leg 7
197.8 km (122.9 miles)
30.7 kWh/100km (2.02 miles/kWh)
Range: 309.1 km (192.1 miles)

Leg 8
78.5 km (48.8 miles)
27.8 kWh/100km (2.24 miles/kWh)
Range: 341.3 km (212.1 miles)

Leg 9
160.6 km (99.8 miles)
29.6 kWh/100km (2.10 miles/kWh)
Range: 321.2 km (199.6 miles)


One thing I'd seen in videos is that the trip computer didn't make a lot of sense, in that the consumption and range was inaccurate and was acting as if the 95 kWh useable was in fact more like 90 kWh or less. However, I found the trip computer to be extremely accurate and the displayed efficiency and remaining range was within 0.1 kWh/100km of my calculated efficiency.

You’re a homie for providing both types of units haha.

For the trip computer, my understanding is that it uses historical driving behavior as a parameter, so for press cars that you see in YouTube videos, by the time the reviewer gets the car, it’s probably already been launch controlled to death by the previous reviewer, which would obviously skew estimates.

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