Real consumption / range / efficiency thread … post your Macan EV performance 📊

[CandianPorsche83]

- Macan 4
- 22” Goodyear Eagle F1 Summers
- Set to partial load 39 PSI; however, had 4 adults and a child and two luggages in the car
- 5AM no traffic
- Mixed city and highway (over 100km/hr in some stretches)
- not bad considering the variables

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[tmrqs]

Really can’t complain about the efficiency of my Turbo on 21” - today’s numbers were achieved with temperatures in the very low 60s. The ones the past couple days in the 50s.

We’re looking at 340+ miles of range. On a Turbo.

 

[Fun TC Driving]

That is wonderful news. Thanks for posting it.

 

[Yves]

2 trips one leg to, one leg back home …
To was slight headwind and not flat, hilly road some 200m meter up down
Trip to was around 20C trip back around 16 and
The way back was same little shorter as we drove not some extra errant like on the way to.
So on the way to we consumed like 33% and the way back 29% … that points to a battery capacity of around 89kwh if my math is correct … I do expect like 3% heat loss so a real capacity of 92kwh usable … seems I already lost like 3.3% on 7 800km …
Consumptions was rather OK … and if I would transfer this to “real range that would translate to around 440km at target highway speed of 120km/h … not that bad. (Average speed was lower as there were some works that limited speed to 70km/h +-10km)

 

[cottony]

So on the way to we consumed like 33% and the way back 29% … that points to a battery capacity of around 89kwh if my math is correct … I do expect like 3% heat loss so a real capacity of 92kwh usable … seems I already lost like 3.3% on 7 800km …

that's an interesting way to estimate battery capacity. i assume your formula is

Battery capacity = (kwh used) / (Battery % used)

the underlying assumption for this equation is that the battery % is accurate, which i had doubts about.

to confirm my hypothesis, i recorded a trip i had from 80% to 76%, 15.5mi @ 0.278kWh/mi. calculating it out, we'd get a battery capacity of 107.725kWh

 

[Yves]

that's an interesting way to estimate battery capacity. i assume your formula is

Battery capacity = (kwh used) / (Battery % used)

the underlying assumption for this equation is that the battery % is accurate, which i had doubts about.

to confirm my hypothesis, i recorded a trip i had from 80% to 76%, 15.5mi @ 0.278kWh/mi. calculating it out, we'd get a battery capacity of 107.725kWh

Correct but it needs to be more then a few percent (the error of measurement will be way to big), all the YT use this method, and I see calculated battery sizes of around 91 to 93kwh for the Q6 … maybe I need to drive more then 30% … and more like 70 to 80%. In any case both my runs pointed to the same capacity …

 

[CandianPorsche83]

Maybe noting whether some of the data is with recuperation on or off might be useful. I have programmed my diamond key so that I can switch back and forth but lately have been finding coasting to be more efficient for me.

Wonder what everybody else’s take is.

 

[Yves]

Maybe noting whether some of the data is with recuperation on or off might be useful. I have programmed my diamond key so that I can switch back and forth but lately have been finding coasting to be more efficient for me.

Wonder what everybody else’s take is.

Well I always drive in coasting, but I’ve noticed that in that mode it sometimes takes a while before regen kicks in … has nothing to see with battery temp …

 

[byebye]

Yes, it’s annoying in coasting: you brake and no regeneration at all. So you immediately release the brakes, not more than 0.5s, and you re-brake, and this time, there is regeneration instead of real brakes…
Activation of the regeneration instead of the brakes is not systematic on the first try, and systematic on the second.
I have this behavior in the city, and also on the highway, not speed related. I’ve tried under several battery temp (8C to 35c), no difference.
Strange.

 

[PrudentOcean]

As far as I know the brakes may be used instead of regen when the conditions are cold or wet. This is to optimize their performance for when friction braking is needed — warm and dry rotors and pads work better than cold and wet ones.

My previous ICE car would drag the brakes to warm and dry them while driving.

 

[Petzi]

Yes, it’s annoying in coasting: you brake and no regeneration at all. So you immediately release the brakes, not more than 0.5s, and you re-brake, and this time, there is regeneration instead of real brakes…
Activation of the regeneration instead of the brakes is not systematic on the first try, and systematic on the second.
I have this behavior in the city, and also on the highway, not speed related. I’ve tried under several battery temp (8C to 35c), no difference.
Strange.

it is the other way arround. braking starts with recouping. should this be not enough the real brakes kick in.

 

[CandianPorsche83]

Well I always drive in coasting, but I’ve noticed that in that mode it sometimes takes a while before regen kicks in … has nothing to see with battery temp …

Interesting! Hadn’t noticed that as my instrument cluster isn’t set to show the regen bar. Will have to observe this the next time I’m driving

I guess the real question isn’t which option is more efficient since it depends but which option would you pick in the following scenarios:

1) daily city driving
3) stop and go traffic
3) highway driving
4) going uphill
5) going downhill

 

[Daniel]

My personal method, after three years with the Taycan.
I don't claim to "know the truth."

For the most efficient driving experience:
I first press the diamond button (set to activate regen), then press the brake pedal to achieve the desired deceleration, and simultaneously press the diamond button again to deactivate it.
For the first few braking sessions of the day, I try to use only the regen button...

 

[byebye]

it is the other way arround. braking starts with recouping. should this be not enough the real brakes kick in.

I know, thanks

That’s why I‘ve said “strange”. Try coasting in town, and observe the regen meter on the driver screen or on the HUD: even under ideal circumstances (temperature, dry etc), for no apparent reason, the car will not regen when you brake a bit (or more) - no green on the regen meter -, release a fraction of time the brakes pedal, and brake again, it will regen - green on the regen meter…
It’s not systematic, so you need to try several times to see this strange behavior.
You can test it at 10-20 mph, don’t need to brake a lot.

do you have this erroneous behavior?

 

[byebye]

Interesting! Hadn’t noticed that as my instrument cluster isn’t set to show the regen bar. Will have to observe this the next time I’m driving

I guess the real question isn’t which option is more efficient since it depends but which option would you pick in the following scenarios:

1) daily city driving
3) stop and go traffic
3) highway driving
4) going uphill
5) going downhill

Because of the strange behavior I’ve had in coasting mode (it sometimes uses brakes instead of the regen for no apparent reason ), coasting can lose a lot of opportunities to regen, it tends to be bad no matter the scenario.
Without that bug, 1.daily and 3.highway without traffic jam are better from my experience with coasting.

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